Thanks Rory – appreciate the input…
The security side isn’t “Chinese Hacker” oriented – it’s more about staff access controls and integration with existing systems. The integration with switches/management etc is an area that Cisco also shines in, especially when the existing LAN infrastructure is already Cisco. This isn’t a high priority project and I certainly got a lot more feedback than I anticipated – all good though :) When I get some time I’ll read up on some of these other players … I’ve never seen any of them deployed anywhere I’ve gone (and I get around lol) … also never heard of half of them so this is quite interesting. Thanks, Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory Conaway Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 9:49 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI Paul, the stuff you are describing is where Xirrus, Extreme, Firetide, Trango, Bel Air, and Ruckus play. Meraki might be in that category but I’m not that familiar with them. I can’t remember about the zero touch provision on wireless but on the security side, they have a lot more stuff than that also. If it’s psycho, protect from Chinese hackers stuff, talk to Extreme mostly because they also have an integrated back end with switches, management, etc, (formerly Enterasys). In the real world at the professional level and high-density, high-interference, I’d use Ruckus or Xirrus. Lower density, lower interference, I’d look at Ubiquiti. The reality is that there is a reason you pay premium prices along with yearly fees on the equipment with Xirrus and Ruckus. It’s kind of like comparing a Ferrari or Porsche to a Camaro, both will get you there but 100 years of racing experience means that every single detail on being first is built into every product. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul Stewart Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 5:40 AM To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI What’s a Sigma Cisco guru? ;) There’s also some enterprise features that I’m interested in specific to our needs that I don’t believe UniFi supports … always happy to hear feedback though -locate and mitigate rogue access points automatically -reporting engine that can produce various usage reports (I know that’s vague but this is a public list) -zero touch provisioning of AP’s (based on port and location) -location tracking integration with security applications (again, high level on a public list) I could go on … but in my mind it’s apples to oranges comparison. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 10:57 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI My son and I installed hundreds of the Cisco latest APs at time last year and controllers along with Cisco Layer 3 switches for large school.district. Sigma Cisco gurus configured them....and we tested them. I know what Cisco AC units can do and I know what UniFi AC units can do. Will stick with Ubiquiti. Jaime Solorza On May 26, 2015 7:21 PM, "Paul Stewart" <p...@paulstewart.org <mailto:p...@paulstewart.org> > wrote: We have Unifi (non AC) version in our offices and it sucks … working on a plan to migrate to Cisco probably – complete opposite ;) When the system is working well, it’s not bad at all but it doesn’t seem to deal with outside interference very well and often slows down to a snails pace. It also doesn’t handle video and voice very well most of the time despite traffic prioritization. I’d take a guess at around 120 users during the day and 30-40 users off hours (we run 24X7). Also found the Unifi stuff doesn’t handle AP handoff very well at all … not even sure if it’s supported in the specs come to think of it.. I’ve read the latest generation has “seamless handoff’ though…. I’ve deployed Cisco before and it’s definitely quite a bit more in cost but for our application, cost is secondary compared to performance/stability. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com> ] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:49 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Campground WIFI Our local rez replaced all their Cisco gear and controllers with Ubiquiti AC Dual Band UniFi and software. Speeds and performance much better and easy to manage. The casino waitresses love the pos at customers tables and security knows where they are at all times. Used at both Speaking Rock and Socorro Entertainment Center..I installed two AC UniFi APs months ago for cattle association. Not one call...ave 75 to 150 users a day Jaime Solorza On May 26, 2015 5:17 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net <mailto:cr...@totalhighspeed.net> > wrote: Got a 110' tower that belongs to a large campground that we are using as a tower site. Using Mimosa links to the tower and have 500+ MB of bandwidth available to this tower. The campground area is about 110 acres and about 1/2 of that has camp sites that we want to be able to provide paid by the X WIFI service. UBNT has a billing platform that I think integrates with their equipment and I will gladly use their equipment but I dont want to recreate the wheel here. This is not in my normal course of business but the campground owner wants it and I think there is a lot of potential here all be it seasonally. Is the UBNT software good stuff? What are your recommendations to type of AP's / Antennas / for such a setup. What is the best way to market this type of service? Free for basic minimal speeds? then sell a higher rate if they want it. Or Just bill for anything one lower package and one higher package? Has anyone on the list tried this at a campground and if so what mistakes did you make and what did you end up using? Ive made enough mistakes in the past with other stuff. I have learned to ask you guys on stuff I'm not familiar with . Craig
