As long as you can track a particular user to an IP for things such as 
subpoenas, copyright infringement emails, I think you’ll be fine.

> On May 28, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
> 
> I am trying to convince myself that this is not a good idea.  I can’t seem to 
> find a compelling reason to authenticate or limit leases.
> 
> From: Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:33 PM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot
> 
> Or you could even just run wide open DHCP at that point if you don't care 
> about authentication or limiting leases.
> On May 28, 2015 1:16 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>> Yeah, trying to eliminate the user having to authenticate.  We know the MAC 
>> of the fiber terminal.  We have control over the DLS lines.     We have to 
>> enable either the fiber or the phone for them to get service, in my mind 
>> that is plenty of authentication.
>> 
>> Like to have a user plug and play with no extra steps.  Like to not have any 
>> more databases.  I really don’t care who the user is etc.  If they can get 
>> service they are supposed to get service.
>> 
>> From: Simon Westlake <mailto:simon.westl...@digitalgunfire.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 12:08 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot
>> 
>> You could probably do a really short DHCP lease on the initial walled garden 
>> IP, I don't know how short DHCP Patriot supports, but I would imagine the 
>> shortest would probably still be 60 seconds.
>> 
>> On 5/28/2015 12:58 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>> Be nice to make it so that a DSL modem/router could power up and just start 
>>> working without any power cycling.
>>> 
>>> From: Charles Boening <mailto:charl...@calore.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 11:28 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot
>>> 
>>> We have had a DHCPatriot system for about 5 years.  We love it.  It’s 
>>> essentially a captive portal.  When a user first connects, they get a 
>>> private IP and policy routing forces them to the portal.  When the user 
>>> authenticates, the system uses a local user database or RADIUS to 
>>> authenticate the them and if successful, ties the MAC address to a 
>>> username.  Now that the user is known, they reboot their device (or 
>>> release/renew or wait a few minutes) and the system assigns an IP address 
>>> from the authenticated address pool.
>>> 
>>> Infoblox looks like it has a few more features (some DNS and IPAM stuff).
>>> 
>>> If you’re in the market for something like the DHCPatriot system, I 
>>> recommend getting a demo.
>>> 
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>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com>] On 
>>> Behalf Of Simon Westlake
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 28, 2015 6:31 AM
>>> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dhcpatriot
>>> 
>>> I thought it was pretty interesting. Infoblox has a nice DHCP server too.
>>> On May 27, 2015 4:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com 
>>> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>>> Anyone know anything about this product?
>>>> http://www.network1.net/products/dhcpatriot/ 
>>>> <http://www.network1.net/products/dhcpatriot/>

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