I saw that at the NATE Unite show this year.  BIG!

On 6/3/2015 4:57 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

At IWCE there was someone settling an $8000 vandegraph generator looking thing that said they had never had a hit on a protected tower.

On Jun 3, 2015 5:54 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

    I have used them.  I believe the theories.  But I think you would
    have to talk to broadcasters to get a good opinion.  They don’t
    seem to be as popular as they once were.
    *From:* Edward Brooks <mailto:broo...@mt.net>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:51 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
    Thanks Ken,
          Has anyone had any experience with dissipators? Are they
    worth the money and labor?

    -Ed
-- Edward Brooks
    /Outside Plant Manager
    The Montana Internet Corporation/
    406-443-3347 X506 <tel:406-443-3347%20X506>

    On 6/3/2015 4:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
    I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will
    likely get Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most
    there should be one at each end.
    You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those
    are shield grounds, not actual surge protectors.
    I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the
    tower if you can help it.
    If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had
    some success with a COAX surge protector between the radio and
    the antenna.  Polyphaser makes some DC blocking types that work
    OK and aren’t too expensive. If lightning hits, the omni is still
    probably toast, but it might save the radio.
    *From:* Edward Brooks <mailto:broo...@mt.net>
    *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
    Here goes...
         We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been
    grounded per manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is
    physically bonded (not exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all
    ground rods are then connected to each other in a ring.  The
    equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod and tied into the
    meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are then
    bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
         With that said our issue has not been with the grounding,
    but with the dissipation of static at the height of the
    antennas.  We currently have had the worst problems with the 3
    Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently located on masts at the
    top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a couple of the
    5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as
    frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the
    height of the tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC
    surge arrestors located in the cabinet which is located 10 ft
    from the base of the tower.
         After doing some research through various Cambium manuals
    and the Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is,
    but would like to bounce those ideas off the community. My
    thought is that we neglected to put surge arrestors at 50' to 75'
    intervals (as recommended by the Motorola R56 manual) and 1 at
    the top for use in thunderstorm areas. Also we may need to lower
    the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per the
    Cambium manuals for various antenna types).
         Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have
    you done to mitigate this problem?  Etc...

    Thanks,
    -Ed
-- Edward Brooks
    /Outside Plant Manager
    The Montana Internet Corporation/
    406-443-3347 <tel:406-443-3347> X506




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