Nope

Jaime Solorza
On Jun 3, 2015 6:17 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  Then you're not following the single-point/everything connected principle.
>
> On 6/3/2015 7:09 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
>
> I run the ground wire directly to dedicated ground rod.  We DO Not tie in
> to ring or grid.   This is a straight shot...
>
> Jaime Solorza
> On Jun 3, 2015 5:15 PM, "Edward Brooks" <broo...@mt.net> wrote:
>
>>  So, to clarify things.  These are Cyclone 2450-VS APs set to 120deg.
>> That said, the idea with the ground wires for the omni may not work.
>> A surge arrestor at the top and bottom (not part way up).
>> Try not to be the tallest thing on the tower.
>> Aerial at top with dedicated ground wire to ground rod tied into Tower
>> ground ring.
>> Does that about sum it up?
>>
>> -Ed
>>
>> On 6/3/2015 4:53 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>>  I have used them.  I believe the theories.  But I think you would have
>> to talk to broadcasters to get a good opinion.  They don’t seem to be as
>> popular as they once were.
>>
>>  *From:* Edward Brooks <broo...@mt.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 4:51 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>>
>>  Thanks Ken,
>>       Has anyone had any experience with dissipators?  Are they worth the
>> money and labor?
>>
>> -Ed
>> --
>> Edward Brooks
>>
>> *Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation*
>> 406-443-3347 X506 <406-443-3347%20X506>
>>
>> On 6/3/2015 4:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>  I would NOT put Cat5 surge protectors every 50-75 feet, you will likely
>> get Ethernet errors and/or negotiation problems.  At most there should be
>> one at each end.
>>
>> You are probably thinking of coax, and even so I suspect those are shield
>> grounds, not actual surge protectors.
>>
>> I do agree with not making your antennas the highest thing on the tower
>> if you can help it.
>>
>> If you must use an omni antenna located at the top, I have had some
>> success with a COAX surge protector between the radio and the antenna.
>> Polyphaser makes some DC blocking types that work OK and aren’t too
>> expensive.  If lightning hits, the omni is still probably toast, but it
>> might save the radio.
>>
>>  *From:* Edward Brooks <broo...@mt.net>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 03, 2015 5:24 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Static & Nearby Lightning Issues
>>
>>  Here goes...
>>      We have a new 118' Super Titan Max tower that has been grounded per
>> manufacturers recommendations.  Each leg is physically bonded (not
>> exothermically) to a 10' ground rod, all ground rods are then connected to
>> each other in a ring.  The equipment cabinet is bonded to an 8' ground rod
>> and tied into the meter base grounding as well.  The two ground rings are
>> then bonded to each other in 2 separate places.
>>      With that said our issue has not been with the grounding, but with
>> the dissipation of static at the height of the antennas.  We currently have
>> had the worst problems with the 3 Cyclone 2.4 antennas which are currently
>> located on masts at the top of the tower.  We have also had issues with a
>> couple of the 5.7 Cyclones located below the top of the tower, but not as
>> frequently.  The center-line of the 2.4 APs is 120' AGL, the height of the
>> tower is 118' AGL.  We currently have WB-GigE-APC surge arrestors located
>> in the cabinet which is located 10 ft from the base of the tower.
>>      After doing some research through various Cambium manuals and the
>> Motorola R56 manual, I have some idea what our issue is, but would like to
>> bounce those ideas off the community.  My thought is that we neglected to
>> put surge arrestors at 50' to 75' intervals (as recommended by the Motorola
>> R56 manual) and 1 at the top for use in thunderstorm areas.  Also we may
>> need to lower the APs to a minimum of 2ft below the top of the tower (per
>> the Cambium manuals for various antenna types).
>>      Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.  What have you
>> done to mitigate this problem?  Etc...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Ed
>> --
>> Edward Brooks
>>
>> *Outside Plant Manager The Montana Internet Corporation*
>> 406-443-3347 X506 <406-443-3347%20X506>
>>
>>
>>
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