It seems to be a lot less of a problem than it used to be, I think at least
part of the reason is that the new Xbox sets up an IPv6 tunnel.

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 5:15 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

>   I wonder about that.  We’re starting to get more residential takers on
> leasing a Mikrotik.  We ship them with UPNP disabled and since they are
> remotely managed can easily enable it upon request.  Have not had to turn a
> single one on yet.  Maybe the intersection of people with Xboxes and people
> who lease routers is the null set?  Hard to believe.
>
>
>  *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 5:00 PM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
>
>  but... anything that makes me not have to deal with people whining about
> their xbox NAT issues can't be all bad.
>
> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:32 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>>   UPNP = evil
>>
>> Here, cheap piece of crap from China, do whatever you want with my
>> firewall, and no need to tell me.
>>
>>
>>  *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net <p...@believewireless.net>
>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 11:17 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
>>
>>  It's definitely a NAT issue. Does your router support UPNP? Did you
>> enable it in Settings->Network Settings->Advanced Settings?
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>>   I could post a pic if I could get into the system.  (Not on site most
>>> of the time).
>>>
>>>  *From:* mailto:p...@believewireless.net <p...@believewireless.net>
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 18, 2015 9:18 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Grandstream Cameras
>>>
>>>  Can you post a pic of the camera during the day and of it washed out
>>> at night? We've had to tweek the video settings
>>> on some of the cameras.
>>>
>>> If you have an Android phone/tablet, you can download their free app to
>>> view your cameras remotely. We have Apple and use the IP Cam Viewer app
>>> which is nice.
>>>
>>> I'll look into the remote DVR issue for you.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:49 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>   OK, bought a couple of the more expensive grandstream cameras and
>>>> their DVR device.
>>>> The cameras are really washed out by our security lights at night.  I
>>>> got the expensive night IR model hoping to capture traffic at night.  But
>>>> the ambient light is too much for the B&W IR mode and not enough for
>>>> regular color daylight mode.
>>>>
>>>> The thing that really bugs me is our inability to see the video
>>>> remotely.  If on site it works OK but if I log into the DVR it allows
>>>> access but the screen is just black.  No camera video is visible.
>>>> Grandstream has not been helpful.
>>>>
>>>> So, shall I try another brand of camera?  Have not tried any of the
>>>> UBNT stuff.  I have a cheap system from Harbor Freight that while is
>>>> extremely low res and has noise on some of the channels actually works well
>>>> enough for many things.  (If nothing more than scaring away bad guys by the
>>>> presence of the cameras.)
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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