I'm running it at home on a 2011.  No issues.  Lots of fast track packets.

Josh Luthman
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On Jul 16, 2015 1:11 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

>  Any NEW issues with 6.30.1 yet?
>
> On 7/15/2015 9:45 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
>
> 6.30.1 is already released as a bugfix too.....
>
>
> On 7/15/2015 9:42 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>  Thanks, I guess I’ll have to try that.
> I can’t keep up.  I thought 6.29 was the latest.
>
>
>  *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN <li...@mtin.net>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>  Here is why I recommended upgrading to the latest.  If I have a problem
> client like that and some troubleshooting doesn’t fix it I upgrade just
> that client to the latest.  Mikrotik routinely leaves things out of the
> changeling that were fixed.  They are getting better.  WMM support has been
> an issue across many brands of routers.  The Apple boards talk of WMM
> support being turned off and fixing issues.
>
> 6.30
>
> *) wireless - added WMM power save suport for mobile devices;
>
>
> 6.22
>
> *) 100% CPU load caused by DNS service fixed;
> *) 100% CPU load caused by unclassified services fixed;
>
>
>  Justin
>
>   ---
> Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net>
> http://www.mtin.net  Managed Services – xISP Solutions – Data Centers
> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
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>
>
> On Jul 14, 2015, at 11:16 AM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
>
> I have a RB751 at home. My Moto X's wireless likes to just stop passing
> traffic. I log in and see a bunch of deauths and key timeouts in the log. I
> had the preamble set to both and changed it to long the other day. I also
> updated it to 6.30 last night before I went to bed. So I'm hoping one of
> those fixes it. This also happens with my phone and others in the office on
> the Unifi though, but a lot less frequent. MT wireless is just.. different.
>
> On 7/14/2015 5:14 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>  I assume you had it on both (the default), not short, before the switch?
>
> I will give that a try, shouldn’t be any downside I don’t think.  I’m
> wanting to try stuff that has worked for other people, not random stuff.
>
>
>  *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 9:52 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>  I changed one to long and the key exchange drops seem to have vanished.
>
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" mailto:af...@kwisp.com <af...@kwisp.com>
> <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 13, 2015 9:50:03 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
> I have it set to both.  I thought the issue was if you set it to short
> only.
>
>  *From:* David Milholen <dmilho...@wletc.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 9:45 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>  Been seeing alot of this with apple devices that have issues staying
> connected or connecting in general and changing the preamble setting to
> long seems to fix
> most issues
>
>
> On 7/13/2015 9:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>  This is set to 2437, not auto.
>
> The complaining customer called today and said the issue is 99% fixed
> after I changed the group key exchange from 5m to 60m, which unfortunately
> is as long as RouterOS lets you set it.  I believe this is the interval for
> rotating the group ciphers, not the timeout for the exchange.  Not sure why
> the Apple devices seem to be not doing the handshake for the new keys,
> resulting in them getting deauthed and disconnected.
>
> The only other thing I am considering is changing channel width from 20/40
> to 20 MHz.  There’s a list of tips from Apple that says to do that in 2.4
> GHz, but they seem to imply it’s for compatibility with other devices, not
> specifically iOS devices.
>
> The other thing Apple recommends is enabling WMM, I’m not sure if that’s a
> good idea, especially since Mikrotik doesn’t support WMM sleep mode,
> AFAIK.  I’m not sure why just the QoS part of WMM would prevent a client
> from getting disconnected.
>
>
>  *From:* Chris Wright <ch...@velociter.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 13, 2015 10:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>   I’ve seen plenty of iOS devices throw fits whenever the wireless access
> point is set to auto frequency selection. Some iPads/iPhones/etc. get left
> behind when the channel switches.
>
>
>  Chris Wright
> Network Administrator
> Velociter Wireless
> 209-838-1221 x115
>
>
>  *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>
> <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 6:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>
>   Let’s not get sidetracked with a discussion of downgrading, I don’t
> think that’s relevant here.  I do understand what you’re saying about the
> changelog – Mikrotik may have changed/fixed something from 6.19 to 6.29
> silently without noting it in the changelog.
>
>
>  I was kind of hoping someone knew a trick to get the Netflix app to just
> keep playing rather than popping up an error message.  Or had seen this
> problem before and knew how to fix it.
>
>
>  The group key exchange timeout may be a red herring.  I’m not sure if
> Mikrotik is doing a good thing by kicking the client off when the group key
> exchange fails after a key rotation.  I guess it prevents a situation where
> the client can’t talk to other clients on the same LAN because
> multicast/broadcast traffic isn’t getting through.  But maybe it would be
> less intrusive to just wait for the next key rotation to restore that
> functionality rather than forcing a disconnect.  Also I’m not sure why they
> won’t let you set the key rotation interval longer than 1 hour or turn off
> rotation entirely, probably for security reasons.
>
>
>
>
>   *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>  *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 8:12 AM
>  *To:* af@afmug.com
>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>
>
> The don't downgrade applies to ROS version and firmware. There may not be
> an issue with a given product and two versions, but it's a good habit to
> get into.
>
> Mikrotik's changelog is like cheating on your spouse. Everyone sees you
> behaving differently now, but there's no official paperwork showing it.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Friday, July 10, 2015 8:06:13 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>   This particular router has Routerboard FW 3.18 so I think it was
> upgraded to 6.19 not downgraded.  Also, I don’t see any wireless related
> changes in the changelog from 6.19 to 6.29.
>
>
>  I’m thinking of changing the group key update interval from 5m to 1h
> which I think is the max.  I’m not sure if the group key exchange timeouts
> are due to the client being in sleep mode, or a problem I should be
> worrying about.  The fact that the Mikrotik sends deauth to disconnect the
> client which then immediately connects doesn’t seem like a good think.
> Without the deauth and disconnect, I would not expect unicast traffic to be
> affected.  I’m thinking the iPad knows the WiFi disconnected and tells the
> app which then pops up the annoying error which requires the user to tap OK
> and then Play.
>
>
>  If I change the timeout to 1h and the frequency of the problem stays the
> same, I think that will eliminate this as the possible cause.
>
>
>  Reading the logs can be confusing, it’s amazing how many iPhones and
> iPads one family can have.  Hard to sort out the problems from normal
> events.
>
>
>
>
>   *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>  *Sent:* Friday, July 10, 2015 7:20 AM
>  *To:* af@afmug.com
>  *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
>
>
> I don't believe you're ever supposed to downgrade a device's shipped
> software, due to unknown chipset\driver changes.
>
>
> -----
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 9, 2015 9:42:19 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
> Actually no, I have everything on 6.19 because it was stable for me and I
> don't like facing the choice of either upgrading everything in the field
> every month or having every router on a different version.  I've even been
>
> downgrading the latest shipment of 951G's that came in with 6.23.
>
> Usually switching to Mikrotik from store bought routers solves a lot of
> iPad/iPhone problems for us.
>
> He said this is the latest iPad, would that be the iPad Air 2?  I remember
>
> the iPad Air being new 2 Christmases ago.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Wilson - MTIN
> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 9:20 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect
>
> Apple devices are picky on their wifi stuff when it comes to mikrotik.  I
> assume you have upgraded to the latest version of RouterOS.  This is one of
>
> the few times running the latest helps.  I was running 6.21 on one of my
> APs
> in the house and anytime I roamed to it things became very slow.  OS
> upgrade
> helped.
>
> Is this an iPad, Ipad2, iPad Air?
>
> Justin
>
> ---
> Justin Wilson <j...@mtin.net>
> http://www.mtin.net  Managed Services � xISP Solutions � Data Centers
> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
> http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering � Transit � Internet Exchange
>
> > On Jul 9, 2015, at 6:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> >
> > I just talked to the customer again and the Netflix error he is getting
> is
> > 1016.
> >
> > If he clicks OK and Play, it starts playing again.  Of course the Netflix
>
> > troubleshooting tips say things like power cycle your router and modem.
> >
> > The only thing that occurs to me is we put in a Mikrotik router with 2.4
>
> > GHz WiFi, previously he was using a Frontier DSL modem, not sure if that
>
> > was dual band WiFi or not.  But if I Google Netflix error 1016, some of
> > the suggestions involve turning off Bluetooth on the iPad.  Other
> > suggestions have to do with location services.  None of those sound
> > logical to me, but who knows with iDevices and Netflix apps.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof
> > Sent:
>
> ...

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