The problem when I do mail in a FIFO manner....

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On 7/24/2015 11:36 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

You missed my post 10 seconds later when the lightbulb went on ;)

*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 2:03 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

Seriously?!?!

There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

That's a really old one.


bp
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On 7/24/2015 7:27 AM, Paul Stewart wrote:

    Google translator comes up empty on that one J

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Shayne Lebrun
    *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 10:16 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

    TANSTAAFL.

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
    *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 9:32 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

    I understand what you’re saying … yes, people (like myself)
    complaining about something free … totally understand that part.

    But many times when a vendor brings in something major and new, it
    often causes problems with code on routers/switches that has
    worked perfectly fine for a long time.  To bring DPI into any
    router involves a significant amount of codebase change very low
    on the IP stack .. a lot can go wrong…

    *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Brett A
    Mansfield
    *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 9:06 AM
    *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

    I had/have that concern as well. But it is mind boggling to me
    that so many people are complaining about ubiquiti putting in this
    value added feature (quite well I may add). I have never seen so
    many complaints about features being added. Shouldn't we instead
    complain about the needed features their products are missing?

    Complaining about ubiquiti adding in DPI, even if it sucked, is
    like complaining that you get a dozen free games when you buy an
    XBox One. You may not like the games you get, but they are free
    and you don't have to play them if you don't want.


    Thank you,

    Brett A Mansfield


    On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:52 AM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        I think the thought is that DPI is a very intensive process
        and if the router wasn't designed with enormous overhead or
        hardware acceleration, it could be crippling. Maybe those
        routers were...



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        *From: *"Brett A Mansfield" <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *To: *[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        *Sent: *Friday, July 24, 2015 7:50:02 AM
        *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

        I don't know why anyone would have a problem with them putting
        this on existing routers. If you don't like their routers,
        don't buy them. If you do like their routers but think a
        feature shouldn't be there, don't enable it.

        I think it's great that ubiquiti innovates the way they do.
        They have some great products that blow other products out of
        the water in one way or another. And it's forced other
        companies to lower their seriously over priced equipment and
        to rethink their strategies. Ubiquiti really is disrupting
        things in the industry in only good ways.

        Sent from my iPhone


        On Jul 24, 2015, at 6:17 AM, Paul Stewart
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

            Well it will be interesting … sure would be nice to see
            someone “disrupt” I agree … but there have been lots of
            folks try to provide “DPI” and fail badly as they didn’t
            really understand what they were getting into… and doing
            it on existing routers is usually the first mistake in my
            opinion…..

            *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
            *Jason McKemie
            *Sent:* Friday, July 24, 2015 1:27 AM
            *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
            *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

            They've got the resources to do it, would be nice to see
            someone undercut the existing players.

            On Thursday, July 23, 2015, Paul Stewart
            <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

                I have no idea but if it’s like other attempts I’ve
                seen from companies to stack heavy CPU “stuff” into a
                router, then stability and any type of scaling would
                be first concerns.  DPI is a very complex item to see
                someone like Ubiquiti jump into in my opinion…

                *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of
                *Jeremy
                *Sent:* Thursday, July 23, 2015 7:13 PM
                *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
                *Subject:* [AFMUG] Ubiquiti DPI?

                Ok, so now that deep packet inspection has been
                announced I'd assume any NDAs have been lifted.  Have
                any of you been using this?  Any idea what type of
                latency is added?  That pricing model is a whole lot
                different from any DPI tool that I have ever seen....


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