Yep, the price on the AC-PTP is high enough that it makes more sense to me to just go straight to the AF5x at that point. The AC radios do have their place though, in places where they make sense and the lack of UNII1/2 isn't a problem, the NanoBeams and PowerBeams are hard to beat.
On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > ~33%, IIRC is what you COULD achieve. That said, staying with UBNT AF5x > isn't that much more than the AC-PTP and is worlds better. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:45:56 PM > > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > Agreed, in my limited experience it didn't seem like UBNT AC does as well > with noise... and when you only have 5.8ghz to work with, finding a clean > channel isn't always exactly easy. > > And if you don't have enough signal for 256qam, you're not really gaining > a whole lot from AC anyhow. > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > >> Lot more bandwidth? I don't think so... >> >> If there is noise I'm almost certain the epmp would win. Look at my >> first case with them - Ubnt couldn't exceed 5 megs aggregate where epmp >> gets me 50+ in the same frequency and physical spot. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> On Aug 9, 2015 8:08 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >> >>> What is the appeal of using ePTP vs. a Mikrotik (or UBNT) AC product >>> with a lot more BW in the same channel size? >>> >>> >>> >>> Paul >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig House >>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:03 PM >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> EPTP >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:53:35 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Tdd ptp or eptp? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 5:37 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: >>> >>> I have a pair of unsynced 5Ghz on Force dishes that I put up in April. >>> They run pretty much flawlessly. They are 4 miles apart and push around >>> 80mb each way in a 20mhz channel. No complaints. Other than the crappy >>> design of the dish which I would have tossed off the tower when I was >>> installing it if I had an alternative. >>> >>> >>> >>> Craig >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:50:51 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> +1 about. >>> >>> >>> >>> So I assume we'll see about half the current latency with 2.5 msec? I >>> can live with that for most links. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks for the confirmation. And on a Saturday!!! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Dan Sullivan < >>> daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: >>> >>> 2.5 msec frame allows for sync and improves PTP latency as compared to 5 >>> msec frame. >>> >>> >>> >>> ePTP cannot be synced as communication is driven based on dynamic data >>> from each link. >>> >>> >>> Dan Sullivan >>> >>> ePMP Software Manager >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>> *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:11 AM >>> *To:* af >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Yep, I'm pretty sure it doesn't use fixed frames in ePTP mode... trying >>> to sync that sounds like it'd end up like airmax sync. >>> >>> 2.5ms frames make sync a lot more useful for ptp though. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> But that depends on frame timing which would leave you at the current >>> tdd ptp (5ms today, 2.5ms after 2.5). I'd love to see the 2ms latency be >>> synced but I don't see how that would be doable. >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:54 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>> No, I mean exactly what I said ePTP sync. >>> >>> There's no reason that I'm aware of that the ePTP up\down cycles >>> couldn't be synced. The regular sync has to deal with potentially dozens of >>> clients. The ePTP just has to deal with one. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:48:14 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Eptp sync doesn't sound possible. That's what the tdd ptp is for. Do >>> you mean the 2.5ms timing? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Aug 8, 2015 7:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>> Though* Early in the morning... >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:45:55 AM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> Is it, thought? ;-) >>> >>> >>> FWIW, I have some ePTP up (eagerly awaiting ePTP sync!) and no issues >>> that I'm aware of. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, August 7, 2015 4:41:45 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? >>> >>> How long has it been up? According to Cambium I'm the only one that's >>> been experiencing a bug and it's all over the place. They've got a fix for >>> it but it's just so weird that I'm the only one with the problem =/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yep, I just replaced a pair of NanoBridges with Force 110's doing ePTP a >>> couple days ago and we have at least one other. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>> Anyone at all? >>> >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >
