It's funny how all of us buying the equipment agree. The only one I've seen defending the feature is Chuck :/
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Aug 9, 2015 2:38 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > I understand not having an open-ended array of channel choices for > backups, but... maybe ten? 15? Just do the damn thing automatically to any > available space it finds? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 1:35:38 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > Then I will have to accept that I like silly and will stick with products > with that feature. What good is hundreds of channels if you can only > accept 3, especially if the radio is making the choice to find the best > channel for you? I know that isn’t the case in noplace Kansas but in the > middle of Phoenix, or as Gino is constantly pointing out, 5GHz hell, that > doesn’t work well. > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:28 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > Because Chuck thinks it is a silly feature. > > The af5x can do single mhz jumps. This means the master can be in 100s of > channels if you know the size. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Aug 9, 2015 2:17 PM, "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote: > > The one thing I like on the AC-PTP and in fact all the radios, is the > ability to select or unselect every single useable channel if the AP is set > to auto. That is really a great feature on AirOS. The three channel limit > that I have to set manually on the AF5x is annoying. Most of the interface > is the same, why didn’t that feature make it to the AF5x? > > > > Rory > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett > *Sent:* Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:50 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > ~33%, IIRC is what you COULD achieve. That said, staying with UBNT AF5x > isn't that much more than the AC-PTP and is worlds better. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:45:56 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > Agreed, in my limited experience it didn't seem like UBNT AC does as well > with noise... and when you only have 5.8ghz to work with, finding a clean > channel isn't always exactly easy. > > And if you don't have enough signal for 256qam, you're not really gaining > a whole lot from AC anyhow. > > > > On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > Lot more bandwidth? I don't think so... > > If there is noise I'm almost certain the epmp would win. Look at my first > case with them - Ubnt couldn't exceed 5 megs aggregate where epmp gets me > 50+ in the same frequency and physical spot. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Aug 9, 2015 8:08 AM, "Paul McCall" <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: > > What is the appeal of using ePTP vs. a Mikrotik (or UBNT) AC product with > a lot more BW in the same channel size? > > > > Paul > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Craig House > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 6:03 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > EPTP > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 4:53:35 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > Tdd ptp or eptp? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Aug 8, 2015 5:37 PM, "Craig House" <cr...@totalhighspeed.net> wrote: > > I have a pair of unsynced 5Ghz on Force dishes that I put up in April. > They run pretty much flawlessly. They are 4 miles apart and push around > 80mb each way in a 20mhz channel. No complaints. Other than the crappy > design of the dish which I would have tossed off the tower when I was > installing it if I had an alternative. > > > > Craig > > > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> > *To: *"af" <af@afmug.com> > *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 3:50:51 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > +1 about. > > > > So I assume we'll see about half the current latency with 2.5 msec? I can > live with that for most links. > > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 1:53 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > Thanks for the confirmation. And on a Saturday!!! > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 2:52 PM, Dan Sullivan < > daniel.sulli...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote: > > 2.5 msec frame allows for sync and improves PTP latency as compared to 5 > msec frame. > > > > ePTP cannot be synced as communication is driven based on dynamic data > from each link. > > > Dan Sullivan > > ePMP Software Manager > > > > *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Saturday, August 08, 2015 10:11 AM > *To:* af > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > > > Yep, I'm pretty sure it doesn't use fixed frames in ePTP mode... trying to > sync that sounds like it'd end up like airmax sync. > > 2.5ms frames make sync a lot more useful for ptp though. > > > > On Sat, Aug 8, 2015 at 7:06 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > But that depends on frame timing which would leave you at the current tdd > ptp (5ms today, 2.5ms after 2.5). I'd love to see the 2ms latency be > synced but I don't see how that would be doable. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Aug 8, 2015 7:54 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > No, I mean exactly what I said ePTP sync. > > There's no reason that I'm aware of that the ePTP up\down cycles couldn't > be synced. The regular sync has to deal with potentially dozens of clients. > The ePTP just has to deal with one. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:48:14 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > Eptp sync doesn't sound possible. That's what the tdd ptp is for. Do you > mean the 2.5ms timing? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Aug 8, 2015 7:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: > > Though* Early in the morning... > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Saturday, August 8, 2015 6:45:55 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > Is it, thought? ;-) > > > FWIW, I have some ePTP up (eagerly awaiting ePTP sync!) and no issues that > I'm aware of. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > http://www.ics-il.com > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, August 7, 2015 4:41:45 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Is anyone here doing ePTP at all? > > How long has it been up? According to Cambium I'm the only one that's > been experiencing a bug and it's all over the place. They've got a fix for > it but it's just so weird that I'm the only one with the problem =/ > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 5:32 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Yep, I just replaced a pair of NanoBridges with Force 110's doing ePTP a > couple days ago and we have at least one other. > > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > Anyone at all? > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
