No, it's downhill both ways.  Unless he's walking to school - that was
uphill both ways.


Josh Luthman
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On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:50 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, but downhill is cheating... I'm guessing you use more than 3% going
> the other direction?
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Nope, I can end up with more energy at the bottom of a long hill every
>> day when I go home.  Generally I have about 62% left and 3 miles later it
>> is 65% due to the regen braking.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:40 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>
>> Every time you hit breaks you're pissing away energy.  Now with a lot of
>> hybrid/electric cars you see some recovery to the batteries, but by no
>> means will it be 100%.  You won't get 30 miles through construction unless
>> you do little or no braking.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:34 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ok, this might be a stupid question, but if you get stuck in Traffic,
>>> that uses almost no battery then, right?  Other than the stop and go.
>>> Would that kill it quicker?  Example, there is a 30 mile drive, but through
>>> construction.  Traffic either flows nicely, or it takes an extra 20 min in
>>> stop and go traffic.  Would you trust it?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/2015 3:23 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I don’t use the projected range meter at all.  I use the battery % meter
>>> when I am worried.  It seems to be spot on.  But after a while, you just
>>> use a trip odometer.  When 30 miles have burned off you know you have to
>>> turn around or charge at the far end.
>>>
>>> *From:* Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:21 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>
>>> How accurate is the battery meter?  Is it like my phone in the cold
>>> where as soon as I go to use it, it goes from Full charge to empty.  Does
>>> it give you a range at projected speed, or just a %?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/2015 3:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> I use it year around.  When it gets down to zero outside, the range is
>>> 60 miles or less.
>>>
>>> *From:* Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:14 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>
>>> Do I remember that you don't use your at all in the winter?  How does it
>>> do in the cold with the heater running?  40-50 or less?
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/10/2015 3:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> They advertise 90 or 100 or some such number.  But if you go much over
>>> 60 miles the anxiety starts to mount.  I have done 70 I think once.  It
>>> will probably do 75.  It does 60-65 all day long at freeway speeds with
>>> HVAC running full bore.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 10, 2015 2:05 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>
>>> What are you getting now?  The 2017 should get 120 from a couple of
>>> articles.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Do we know yet what the 2017 leaf range is supposed to be?  My leaf
>>>> lease is up and I am probably going to re-up for another year to get the
>>>> bigger battery.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Rory Conaway
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:59 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>>
>>>> He is planning on lower battery costs with the new plant or before.
>>>> Even the Leaf has gotten profitable since it's conception for that reason
>>>> which is why they can put a 20% bigger battery pack in for the same amount
>>>> of money.
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 12:50 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>>
>>>> He can subsidize it with his space transport business.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Travis Johnson
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2015 1:36 PM
>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Tesla
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The news today about Tesla is they lose $4,000 per car they sell...
>>>> makes you wonder how much longer that can continue? They are also having
>>>> to support all their Super charging stations across the country (at no
>>>> additional cost for customers), etc.
>>>>
>>>> It's a great concept, and a great first generation electric car, but it
>>>> can't continue like this forever...
>>>>
>>>> Travis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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