>>>The issue I am arguing will have to do with whether or not SIP/VOIP via ATA >>>is equivalent to PSTN POTS and therefore should be eligible for USF support >>>in the rural areas. This has to do with making the CAF funding portable to >>>WISPS. I think that all WISPS should be able to get USF if they are >>>providing the service.
That should be an easy argument to make.... All of the States recognize VOIP to be same as POTS lines for purpose of communication taxes.. So does the FCC when it comes to reporting and taxes.. So why is CAF Funding carving out an exclusion... Most of the States and other dept take the test of reasonable approach... if it walks like a duck, quack's like a duck then it is a duck, so what it is pink in color ! :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet & Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, FL 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > To: af@afmug.com > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 10:22:26 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies > Thanks, > A doctor or pharmacy will throw you out the door if they are only getting 98% > of their faxes through. > The issue I am arguing will have to do with whether or not SIP/VOIP via ATA > is equivalent to PSTN POTS and therefore should be eligible for USF support > in the rural areas. This has to do with making the CAF funding portable to > WISPS. I think that all WISPS should be able to get USF if they are > providing the service. > From: Faisal Imtiaz > Sent: Wednesday, August 12, 2015 8:08 AM > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies > Ok, you might not like me after this ... :) > see answers below:- > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 7:10:35 PM > > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies > > > Oh, yeah, Elevator Alarms too... > > You mean Elevator Help call Lines.... (these are nothing more than auto > dialers).. They work fine with VOIP ATA, they don't care what type of phone > line you have. > > From: Chuck McCown > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2015 5:08 PM > > > To: af@afmug.com > > > Subject: [AFMUG] voip inadequacies > > > I am compiling a list of sip/voip issues I have run into over the years. I > > am > > going to get beaten up by some bureaucrats tomorrow morning and I want to > > have a list to defuse them before the oral part of the proceedings start. > > > I am going to say that ATA/SIP/VOIP is not suitable for the following: > > > Fax Machines (don’t even get me started on this, tried to do a doctor’s > > office and pharmacy once....) > > Now Approaching 95% to 98% full functionality....Bulk of the issues tend to > be with remote fax machines have error correction turned on.... > > TDD The teminal that deaf people use. Does anyone know if a TDD will work > > on > > a garden variety ATA? I don’t have one I can test with. > > http://www.alldeaf.com/showthread.php?t=34404 > > Dial up modems.... > > Yes and no.... it is a bit backwards to talk about modems on a voip line.. > but the issue is not the modem not working, but more of the modem not > working at a high transmission rate over the voip line. > > Fire Alarm control panels (the monitoring companies refuse to even hook it > > up > > if you tell them it is VOIP). > > This is a regulatory issue (Liability related) and not a technical one per > say. > > Burglar Alarms .... ditto > > Not really a technical issue.. but a regulatory and liability related. > > I wonder about heart monitors that you wear and have the results phoned in. > > Have not seen these... > > Dial phones. I have never tried to use a pulse dial phone on an ATA/SIP > > unit. > > I wonder if it would work. > > > Any others? > > Ok you got me... BTW if you find someone with the Old original Graham phone, > please let me know I would be interested in buying one.. > About the only viable argument one can make is that VOIP is less reliable > than a POTS phone line......(within a very specific context, e.g. similar to > cell phones not being as reliable as pots lines...)
