This thread apparently. ;-)
Clothes for one. I'm sure my fiance has a couple more. I'm sure a few
here have a few more as well, but I figured that was a good seed.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:32:46 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
I don't believe that Mike. What are you stupid at?
On 9/29/2015 9:31 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Naw, not all. I buy some things at which I'm not stupid at. I
certainly do buy some things I am stupid at, though.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 9:25:34 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
Ya. All customers are stupid :)
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sep 29, 2015 10:21 PM, "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
wrote:
That's not very nice!
On 9/29/2015 9:15 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Most customers are stupid.
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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
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*From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm"
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> <mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Tuesday, September 29, 2015 4:17:01 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
that a very non customercentric approach
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 3:58 PM, Simon Westlake
<simon@sonar.software> wrote:
The end game will be to enable a user to import their
own data however they want. When we will get to that
point, I'm not sure. And all the formatting of that
data and everything else is still up in the air.
I really want to let people self manage their systems
though. I think it's incredibly frustrating to wait on
someone else to go back and forth on something like an
import, whether that data is from Platypus, Quickbooks
or whatever it might be. And it's a lot of manpower on
our side to manage all those imports, so it's mutually
beneficial if we can make it happen.
On 9/29/2015 3:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
Also, import from Platypus?
-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf
Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:24 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
This should be an interesting answer....
-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Weekley
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2015 2:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
Does it come with an "Import From Powercode" button?
Simon Westlake wrote:
Yeah. I'm not saying 'we promise, there will
never be any bugs.' But,
we're not putting something out and saying
'ehh, it probably works. If
it doesn't, it's beta!'
The whole platform is built around automated
testing. Every single
thing we can think of has an automated test
written around it. So
anytime we change anything, we can run our
test suite (which already
takes a very long time..) and know
categorically if we've broken
anything. On desktop, mobile, the API,
billing, one credit card
processor in particular - everything.
Makes it a lot easier to say 'we're very
confident this works.'
I think, the other thing that is going to make
this different is we're
not trying to make every single thing possible
for every single
person. We brought an accountant on board to
help design the billing
system. She directed us in the application of
a lot of the billing
functionality so it could be reported properly
and audited properly.
This means it's pretty likely at some point,
somebody is going to ask
to do XYZ, and we're going to say no - not
because we don't want to,
but because we've built a system that adheres
to a specific set of
principles, and in the eyes of the system,
deviating from those principles is
fundamentally wrong.
The good side of that is that things just work
in a sane way, and
we're really confident that anyone with an
accounting background is
going to be happy with the reporting and audit
trail in the system.
We're building the front end to be pretty
simple and easy to use (you
don't need to be a CPA to figure out how to
bill) and that's really
how we're trying to approach each part of the
system - have a clear
set of laws defined for how a specific system
works, and then build
interfaces that lets humans easily use them.
On 9/29/2015 2:59 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote:
�
read the forum / notes.� it basically
says "no beta.
ever.�".��� not sure how that will
work...
that's a LOT of testing for it to never be
released to beta...
i mean, we all use the software in a
different way...
�
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brett A Mansfield
<mailto:li...@silverlakeinternet.com>
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 29, 2015
1:30 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ISP
Billing Solution: Sonar
Only question I have is will it be
beta forever? I'm kinda done
with all of this beta crap.
Thank you,
Brett A Mansfield
On Sep 29, 2015, at 11:42 AM, Josh
Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
No it's CALLED sonar.� Which
means it doesn't have it.�
Isn't that what all the cool
clubs do?
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 1:31 PM,
Daniel White
<afmu...@gmail.com
<mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>> wrote:
It uses Sonar.� Geesh.
�
Thank you,
�
Daniel White
afmu...@gmail.com
<mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>
<mailto:afmu...@gmail.com>__
Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
<tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>
<tel:%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590>
Skype: danieldwhite
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�
*From:*Af
[mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
Behalf Of *Josh
Luthman
*Sent:* Tuesday, September
29, 2015 10:54 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New
ISP Billing Solution: Sonar
�
OK.� Why does it have a
radar detector?� Does it know
that speeding is wrong?
�
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340> <tel:937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>>
Direct: 937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343> <tel:937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
�
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015 at 12:48
PM, Simon Westlake
<simon@sonar.software
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>> wrote:
Yes, when it detects
radar, it shuts down.
On 9/29/2015 11:41 AM,
Josh Luthman wrote:
When is the release date?
How much processing
power does it take?
How does it perform
in the real world?
Will it do DFS?
�
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340> <tel:937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>>
Direct: 937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343> <tel:937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
�
On Tue, Sep 29, 2015
at 12:39 PM, Adam Moffett
<dmmoff...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hah.
Will it be more
or less than Powercode?
Will it be more
or less than Platypus?
On 9/29/2015
12:08 PM, Simon Westlake wrote:
Yes, I can confidently say that it
will cost
more than Freeside.
On 9/29/2015 11:07 AM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
Is it more expensive than Freeside?
ehheh
Vlad
On 9/29/2015 10:37 AM, Simon
Westlake wrote:
I'll be sharing stuff on the list,
forum and blog as time goes on.
Nothing just yet, but we are
bringing the first few early access
participants in who won't be in
NDA,
so they are free to share anything
they want as well.
No, it's all original code built on
completely different technology
than
Powercode was. It's a very
different
platform.
On 9/29/2015 10:35 AM, Steve wrote:
Can we get any more
details?�
Screen shots?� Etas?�
Roadmaps?� Like is
this a fork
of Powercode or from the
ground up?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Simon Westlake"
<simon@sonar.software>
<mailto:simon@sonar.software>
To: af@afmug.com
<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 29,
2015 11:04:37 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] New ISP
Billing Solution: Sonar
I don't dare ask which part.
On 9/29/2015 9:39 AM, Josh
Luthman wrote:
Reminds me of Silicon Valley.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>
<tel:937-552-2340
<tel:937-552-2340>>
Direct: 937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>
<tel:937-552-2343
<tel:937-552-2343>>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Sep 29, 2015 10:32 AM,
"Lewis Bergman"
<lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>>
wrote:
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got good
advice from a lawyer. I am
not one but my
� �
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that a noncompete can't be
so broad as to prevent
� � �future
employment, which moving out
of the country would
definably
� �
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Sep 29,
2015, 9:19 AM Keefe John
<keefe...@ethoplex.com
� �
�<mailto:keefe...@ethoplex.com>>
wrote:
� � � �
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he's operating from a
moonbase...or russia.
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9/29/2015 9:16 AM, Chuck
McCown wrote:
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how Simon is getting around
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Tuesday, September 29, 2015
8:14 AM
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Billing Solution: Sonar
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