My opinion represents only me and not WISPA out any other member.

Yea it matters. I must say, for the record Google included. This guy
represents a great deal of the problem today. He thinks he is owed
broadband from his chosen provider at the speed he wants for a price he
thinks is reasonable. If he doesn't get it he wants to force he tries to
shame, or force the company to provide it. Fascist pig.

Add to that a socialist leaning municipality to guarantee that true private
money is less likely to be spent due to tax subsidized competition just
because some city council likes playing with other people's money and
thinks that ROI for a private firm is a stupid concept.



On Wed, Sep 30, 2015, 10:21 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

In case it matters, remember the archives of this list are public and
searchable on Google.



*From:* Jon Auer <j...@tapodi.net>

*Sent:* Wednesday, September 30, 2015 10:00 PM

*To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>

*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?

And here I thought my ears were burning from the fall breeze (just got back
from turning up a 11Ghz link as part of our network upgrades heading
towards that area...).



We have ePMP, PMP450, and AirMax ac (variously) to the north and east of
Sun Prairie (within 20 minutes drive), and PTP stuff in Madison proper (to
the southwest).

South of there is still largely PMP100 that we're working towards replacing
but there's little point in upgrading access without upgrading backhaul so
that's moving a bit like a freight train. Slow to get rolling but when it
arrives it comes with a ton of coal, I mean bandwidth...



Now, standard (but useless) disclaimer for the following political thoughts
when a random reporter finds this in google: I'm talking as random tech
person and not on behalf of any company I may or may not be associated with.



Sun Prairie has had muni acting as ISP for a long time, 10+ years.
Initially with fixed wireless and then transitioned into fiber. As usual
they are cherrypicking the high ARPU customers (businesses & MDUs) and
leaving the normal people behind (I see this around with ARRA/etc
projects).: http://
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>
www.sunprairieutilities.com
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>/
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>
fiberCMSpage.cfm
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>?
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>cms
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>=87&
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>
redflag
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>=0
<http://www.sunprairieutilities.com/fiberCMSpage.cfm?cms=87&redflag=0>

There's a similar problem/situation in Madison with MUFN fiber. There just
seems to be too much drama around towns where muni department people have
ambitions of ISPhood.



So, I don't see us building out that way ever. I mean, if this dude poppped
a 160' 45G or SSV tower in his back yard, got all the zoning approvals, and
served up a long term lease on a silver platter, then sure, in a heartbeat.
PMP450 fed by 11Ghz from our fiber POP @222 in Madison coming right up.
Otherwise, the risk/reward doesn't make sense.

On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 7:03 PM, Josh Luthman <josh@
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>imaginenetworksllc.com
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:

Jon Auer is Netwurx last I heard

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373


On Sep 30, 2015 8:00 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:


Nope, I'm not from Netwurx, but they are around there too... I'm not sure
if they get closer to Sun Prairie than we do or not.


That's not a connection I'd want to put in if it was in the least bit
questionable though, seeing as he calls 3/1Mbps unusable...


On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 6:56 PM, Rick Harnish <rharn...@fibertothefarm.com>
wrote:


I contacted Peter Maher at Netwurx about the article.  They are close.
Maybe that is who Matthew Howard works for.

http:// <http://www.netwurx.net/wireless-high-speed>www.netwurx.net
<http://www.netwurx.net/wireless-high-speed>/
<http://www.netwurx.net/wireless-high-speed>wireless-high-speed
<http://www.netwurx.net/wireless-high-speed>

I also wrote an email to Jessica Michael at Farm Futures about her lack of
knowledge about the Wisp industry yesterday.  I haven't heard back from her
yet.

http://
<http://farmfutures.com/blogs-rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241>
farmfutures.com
<http://farmfutures.com/blogs-rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241>/
<http://farmfutures.com/blogs-rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241>
blogs-
<http://farmfutures.com/blogs-rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241>
rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241
<http://farmfutures.com/blogs-rural-internet-options-smart-office-10241>

Respectfully,

Rick Harnish
Broadband Consultant & Industry Analyst
260-307-4000 cell
Skype: rick.harnish.​
Twitter: @rharnish

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:43 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?
>
> Contact Ars... have them update the site saying that Wireless can solve a
lot
> of these problems for a fraction of the price.   It'll be a good piece
they can do
> on the wireless industry.  Find the name of the guy who wrote the article.
> ahhh his email is  jon.brod...@arstechnica.com
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> To: "af" <af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2015 7:28:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any of you guys service this guy in the news?
>

> I'll just skimmed through the article... We might be able to get there,
I'll see if
> I can figure out where exactly it is.
>
> On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote:
>
> > Would be a good followup Ars story if someone with a 450 was able to
> > hit this guy up with faster than DSL speeds!  Good PR for the WISP
industry.
> >
> >
> > http://
<http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/man-builds-house-then-finds->
arstechnica.com
<http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/man-builds-house-then-finds->
/business/2015/09/
<http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/man-builds-house-then-finds->
man-builds-house-then-finds-
<http://arstechnica.com/business/2015/09/man-builds-house-then-finds->
> ou
> > t-cable-internet-will-cost-117000/
> >
> >

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