I see the hawk-vs-drone and kangaroo-vs-drone videos on Youtube, and think you 
just need a trained hawk.  Or kangaroo.  I don’t know what happened to that 
guy’s drone, officer, I think it had a run-in with some wildlife.


From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 6:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty

Also charge folks to be the drone pilot so  it pits human against human.
I would pay...

Hmmm, what do cheap drones cost?

From: Chuck McCown 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 5:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty

Perhaps if you posted “no drone zone” like no trespassing signs....
I think it would be fun to shoot at them.  I am wondering if it would be 
possible to create a line of drones with titanium armor over the expensive bits 
(motors, batteries, electronics) and have lots of spare parts.  Make a shooting 
range where folks can pay to blast a drone out of the sky.  Costs more if they 
have a camera...

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2015 5:29 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty

Seems to me just make them stay below real aircraft and make it legal to 
destroy or catch them if they're over private property without permission, and 
everyone is happy.


On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 5:37 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Airport exclusion zone would be important.  I would like to limit them to 250 
feet.  If someone is practicing emergency landings in a rural area, 500 feet 
could ruin their day.  

  From: Sean Heskett 
  Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 4:27 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty

  As a pilot I really don't want a drone above 500 feet agl in my airspace.  
There is already a lot going on and it's hard enough to spot a Cessna or even a 
king air let alone a tiny drone that can do a lot more damage than a bird 
strike. 

  We need the faa and nasa to define rules and design the necessary equipment 
to keep the national airspace safe.  (Yes I said nasa...national AERONAUTICAL  
and space administration.  They help invent the technology that the faa uses ;)



  On Wednesday, October 7, 2015, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Exactly my feelings. I'm perfectly fine with allowing them to do whatever 
they want following existing aircraft rules, but that means they stay above 
500', be licensed and everything else that goes along with that.

    I'm also fine with commercial drones being allowed to follow the existing 
rules for private/hobby (which would mean they'd have to stay under 500', which 
it doesn't sound like was the case here) if, and only if, I'm allowed to shoot 
them down if they fly over my property without permission.


    On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 4:13 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thatoneguyst...@gmail.com');> wrote:

      If they had to follow existing aircraft rules, perfect with the caveat of 
them being over private property without consent, you should be able to destroy 
them

      On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:59 PM, Mike Hammett 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@ics-il.net');> wrote:

        I have the complete opposite position. Not trolling, that's just how I 
feel. Apply existing regulations where appropriate. Nothing new is required.




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        Mike Hammett
        Intelligent Computing Solutions
        http://www.ics-il.com



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        From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','thatoneguyst...@gmail.com');>
        To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
        Sent: Wednesday, October 7, 2015 3:31:29 PM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] FAA levies $1.9 M civil penalty 



        good, I hope they go bankrupt. These drones need to get reigned in, and 
it needs to be legal to shoot them down. Assholes have been disrespectful with 
these things from day one

        On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Hardy, Tim 
<javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','tha...@comsearch.com');> wrote:

          The Federal Aviation Administration wants to levy the “largest civil 
penalty” it has proposed against an unmanned aircraft system operator “for 
endangering the safety of our airspace” by operating drones in a “careless or 
reckless manner,” the agency said in a Tuesday announcement. The proposed $1.9 
million civil penalty against SkyPan International of Chicago alleges that 
between March 21, 2012, and Dec. 15, 2014, SkyPan conducted 65 unauthorized 
operations “in some of our most congest­ed airspace and heavily populated 
cities [including New York City and Chicago], violating airspace regulations 
and various operating rules,” the FAA said. The flights involved aerial 
photography, and the aircraft were “not equipped with a two-way radio, 
transponder, and altitude-reporting equipment,” the FAA said. SkyPan also 
failed to obtain a certificate of waiver or authorization for the operations, 
the release said. SkyPan has 30 days to respond to the FAA’s enforcement 
letter, it said. SkyPan didn’t have an immediate comment.




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