No argument.  My opinion on this is that the Islamic religion is so 
fundamentally different from all other Judeo-Christian philosophies that it’s 
going to take a huge change within not only the Islamic religion but the 
culture itself to find peace.  And to make it worse, the different factions in 
the Middle East don’t even get along which means there is no way an outsider 
from another religion is going to change that within a generation.  Until we 
have a generation of the culture that grows up without violence or we are 
willing to bomb at least a billion people, this never ends.  It’s why dictators 
seem to be the only ones who can hold power in these countries although we 
totally screwed up the opportunity in Iraq by complete incompetence and 
political naiveté.  That was the greatest chance in 1000 years to bring peace 
and Democracy to the Middle East and we cut and run when on the brink of 
success.  I believe that history will show Iraq was Obama’s (and by extension, 
Hillary’s) greatest failure and the one country that could have been the beacon 
that could have stopped all the violence and mass migration problems we have 
today.

Rory



From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:10 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

Going by that they're going to win.

When an honorable man fights a dishonorable man the honorable man is at a 
distinct disadvantage.

It comes down to survival. Do you want to sleep soundly until they kill you or 
do you want to survive?


----- Original Message -----
From: Rory Conaway<mailto:r...@triadwireless.net>
To: af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2015 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians.   How do you 
kill them without taking out everyone else.  That is the problem we have had 
all along.  Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s also the most 
dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow wholesale bombing like 
Nixon did in Vietnam.

We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do this with 
when we got the local civilians to act as translators and informants and 
abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them the doctor in 
Pakistan.  Even he is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody 
trusts us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
To: Animal Farm <af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français

as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking lot out 
of them...

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown 
<ch...@wbmfg.com<mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will unite to rub 
them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.

From: Jaime Solorza<mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM
To: Animal Farm<mailto:af@afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français


Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a tragedy.. It is beyond 
barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil.

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" 
<fai...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:fai...@snappytelecom.net>> wrote:


Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux qui sont 
touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric .



Faisal Imtiaz

Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232<tel:305%20663%205518%20x%20232>

Help-desk: (305)663-5518<tel:%28305%29663-5518> Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net<mailto:supp...@snappytelecom.net>

________________________________
From: "Patrick Leary" 
<patrick.le...@telrad.com<mailto:patrick.le...@telrad.com>>
To: "WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org<mailto:wirel...@wispa.org>>, 
"Telrad List" <tel...@wispa.org<mailto:tel...@wispa.org>>, 
af@afmug.com<mailto:af@afmug.com>, memb...@canwisp.ca<mailto:memb...@canwisp.ca>
Sent: Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
Subject: [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.

Patrick Leary
Telrad




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