BBC CCTV and Univision news offer a different slant on things.....but  very
few programs are 100% not biased.  I prefer NPR for daily drive....I only
watch FOX to get idea what my two extreme buddies watch but only for
seconds at a time....
anyways  Hi Ho Hi Ho off to work I go for a Native American company from
Alaska installing two way radios for a federal contractor working on a
federal location in El Paso with a team from another native American
nationfrom Dakota area and Filipino team ...only in America....

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 7:20 AM, Glen Waldrop <gwl...@cngwireless.net>
wrote:

> You're right on one thing, politics is not as cut and dried as all of that.
>
> Obama is a jackass.
>
> Fox news is far from perfect.
>
> As a businessman though I recommend not calling your potential customers
> dumb though. Fox may be a group of liars, but at this point in time they
> are the least biased news source in the US (50% biased vs 100%). Pretty
> much all of the rest of them are brown nosing the left so bad I can't see
> how they haven't suffocated themselves.
>
> When I want news with little BS I tend to lean towards BBC myself.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Patrick Leary <patrick.le...@telrad.com>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Sent:* Monday, November 16, 2015 7:24 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
>
> The world is such a simple place when everything is Obama’s fault.
>
>
>
> Somebody smashes a glass to the ground. 12 years later, people blinded by
> partisanship blame the person who tried to glue some of the pieces back
> together, but the glass still won’t hold water so it must be his fault.
> Extremely disordered cognitive functioning.
>
>
>
> …Never mind the real subtleties all the “informed” people on the Right
> seem to forget, chief among them that the IRAQI POLITICIANS SAID THE ONLY
> WAY WE COULD KEEP OUR TROOPS IN COUNTRY WAS TO REMOVE THEIR IMMUNITY AND
> MAKE THEM SUBJECT TO LIABILITY AND PROSECUTION. No one on this side of the
> pond wanted that, from the DoD to BOTH parties. Of course, FOX viewers
> either are too dumb to know this or intentionally pretend that was not the
> reality, in order to take yet another “it’s Obama’s fault” grade school
> insult. It’s just way more satisfying or simpler for their juvenile world
> view to believe “it’s Obama’s fault!” What, are you 10 years old?
>
>
>
>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/05/world/middleeast/iraqis-say-no-to-immunity-for-remaining-american-troops.html?_r=0
>
>
>
> People really need to educate themselves before spewing childish partisan
> memes.
>
>
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Rory Conaway
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 8:53 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
> français
>
>
>
> We had our chance to stop it in Iraq, we cut and run.
>
>
>
> And you are right, we didn’t do the right bombing in Vietnam to stop that
> war.  And what Ford did at the end is the lesson Obama should have learned
> which could have prevented much of what happened in the Middle East
> including ISIS.  Apparently they didn’t teach history to at Harvard.
> Imagine the influence a multi-cultural and stable Iraqi government would
> have had on the region.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Lewis Bergman
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 15, 2015 6:31 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
> français
>
>
>
> Collateral damage is highly underrated. Vietnam had no wholesale bombing
> like WWII. that is one reason Vietnam, and the rest of these conflicts,
> last so long.
> The horror of war has to be brought to everyone, including those making
> the decisions, to bring it to an end.
>
> But having said that, this Muslim extremists movement has been been going
> on for about 700 years so it may be to much to expect to be out of war
> again. There may be a lull, but I think the entire world has been drawn
> into the middle East quagmire.
>
> The primary cause damn sure isn't a two degrees warming tend in a couple
> decades.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 15, 2015, 7:05 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> wrote:
>
> The problem is that they are basically imbedded with civilians.   How do
> you kill them without taking out everyone else.  That is the problem we
> have had all along.  Door-to-door warfare is all that you can do but it’s
> also the most dangerous for our soldiers and nobody is going to allow
> wholesale bombing like Nixon did in Vietnam.
>
>
>
> We also burned a lot of good will in all the countries we need to do this
> with when we got the local civilians to act as translators and informants
> and abandoned them after the war, the highest profile of them the doctor in
> Pakistan.  Even he is still in jail years later but the reality is, nobody
> trusts us any more in those regions.  We are not a reliable ally.
>
>
>
> Rory
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 11:06 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis
> français
>
>
>
> as much as i hate war and killing....I agree we need to make a parking lot
> out of them...
>
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> Wireless Systems Architect
>
> 915-861-1390
>
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
> The more of this that happens, the more the rest of the world will unite
> to rub them out.  I am a hopeless optimist.
>
>
>
> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>
> *Sent:* Saturday, November 14, 2015 7:52 AM
>
> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG][WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
>
>
>
> Yes. I am praying for them and the world.   What a tragedy.. It is beyond
> barbaric..its evil for the sake of evil.
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
> On Nov 13, 2015 10:15 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Oui , et pas seulement cela , nos cœurs et nos prières pour tous ceux qui
> sont touchés par cette Sensless actes brabaric .
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
>
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <305%20663%205518%20x%20232>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
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>
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> *From: *"Patrick Leary" <patrick.le...@telrad.com>
> *To: *"WISPA General List" <wirel...@wispa.org>, "Telrad List" <
> tel...@wispa.org>, af@afmug.com, memb...@canwisp.ca
> *Sent: *Friday, November 13, 2015 7:46:29 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] S'il vous plaît priez pour nos amis français
>
> Tonght, chaque personne libre est un Parisien.
>
>
>
> Patrick Leary
>
> Telrad
>
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