This is water under the bridge at this point, many people were posting on
the lists about this...you realize being multi-homed is pretty simple to
satisfy ARIN?

Regards,
Chuck

On Wed, Jan 20, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
wrote:

> They wouldn’t give me any for starting out since I wasn’t multi-homed.
>
>
>
> I think all of you must have been requesting on an existing ISP that had
> allocation.
>
>
>
> For new ISPs it’s impossible.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Yeah, I got several allocations up to like 4 or 5 months ago when they
> depleted. If you started in 2013 you dropped the ball, you could have had
> 50,000 ip's by now.
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 10:32 PM, Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
> wrote:
>
> I haven’t turned it up yet on my own BGP, been running off providers BGP.
>
>
>
> So I guess that’s not the problem.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 11:25 PM
>
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> http://bgp.he.net/AS394752
>
> You don't seem to be advertising anything.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 20, 2016 12:00:22 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> My ASN is 394752 the data center upstream ASN is 11798.
>
>
>
> I’m still not sure this isn’t that new world wide problem of forcing DNS
> redirection in routers running parental filtering.
>
>
>
> One instance of this was a customer running filtering on their router, but
> they said they turned it off and it still has the same Netflix message.
>
>
>
> I’ll try emailing their NOC and see if I receive anything intelligent.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 8:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> What is you ASN ? I will be more than happy to check if I see anything odd.
>
>
> Also, Netflix has different IP's in different parts of the country they
> use for sending the video streams.
>
> We typically don't see the same prefix advertised by them via different
> pops they have.
>
>
>
> Plus, not sure if you already got hold of them... you can reach them via
> email to their NOC cdnet...@netflix.com
>
>
>
> If you give a shout out them on Nanog mailing list, you are very likely to
> get a fairly prompt response from their technical team.
>
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> *From: *"Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, January 19, 2016 9:49:50 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
> It may be that.
>
>
>
> I get my IPv4 from a data center.
>
> They are my upstream provider.
>
> The blocks are SWIPed to my company though.
>
>
>
> I had to submit information to Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com and a few others a year
> ago because suddenly they all had me on some unknown blacklist at the same
> time.
>
>
>
> All of those providers have now white-listed my blocks and I no longer
> have issues (except maybe Vudu, who were really hard to get that done).
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:22 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> If you don’t have direct allocation from ARIN, where are your blocks
> from?  That may be part of the story.
>
>
>
> *From:* Sterling Jacobson <sterl...@avative.net>
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 7:56 PM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Except that I’m not on VPN or proxy.
>
>
>
> So they have wrongly allocated or listed my blocks as proxy/VPN.
>
>
>
> Doesn’t that break net neutrality for me?
>
> Not that the FCC is going to do anything about it.
>
>
>
> I just got off the phone. They asked me to email them my ASN, upstream and
> details.
>
>
>
> Hopefully they pull their heads out and get this working.
>
>
>
> Not like I can request a IPv4 block directly from ARIN.
>
> I DID that and they denied saying they have no more.
>
>
>
> So I’m stuck without their help.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
> Behalf Of *timothy steele
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 19, 2016 6:48 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Great, now Netflix customers are calling ME for
> blocked Netflix
>
>
>
> Netflix is working on banning all proxy and most VPN users was on Engadget
> over a month ago there content providers are forcing  them so when there
> telling you nothing they can do to help there telling the truth
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 19, 2016, 8:37 PM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Also reach out to Netflix on twitter, tell them you are a US ISP and your
> users are having issues watching content
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 7:25 PM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> Try NANOG?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Jan 19, 2016 8:23 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:
>
> Anyone else start getting these calls today?
>
> My personal Netflix, on the same public IP block, seems to still work.
>
> But several of my customers are now calling in saying their Netflix is
> VPN, Proxy or using an Unblocker.
>
> Netflix is denying any sort of fix or solution for these customers,
> blaming it on the ISP.
>
> I'm sick of this crap.
>
> The customers don't care, they will just drop the ISP and get another,
> probably with IP blocks that aren't 'blacklisted' as VPN, or going through
> a datacenter.
>
> I had the same problem with Hulu, Vudu, ABC.com Disney.com and several
> others.
>
> Fortunately, all of those companies, except Vudu, fixed my problem by
> whitelisting my IPs.
>
> Vudu took a long time but I think I finally got a hold of the correct team
> of engineers and they fixed it.
>
> On the phone now with Netflix rep and one of her first questions was,
> "What is a public IP block?"
>
> :(
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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