They have more intelligence capability than most of the world's security agencies, and the bigger ones are clients.
It's probably realistic to imagine they have information that could topple companies and redraw and/or remove countries off the map via political change. That's not a small thing. On Feb 2, 2016 7:27 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Their mapping data is licensed from someone else, or at least it used to > be. Maybe they purchased them. Not that they haven't done unique things > with it. Im not saying knowledge and information is worthless. I am saying > it is much more likely to become so than other types of hard assets. Google > is one Google like innovation from becoming Yahoo which has almost become > AOL which was the Google of their day. During that time, Exxon and UPR are > still in their relative positions. Not sexy but real things moving from > where they are to where they are demanded. > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 7:03 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > >> Google owns the world's most popular smart phone, the world's most >> possible search engine, many of the best data comparison and AI algorithms, >> and the most popular device in schools across the world - the chromebook. >> Their customers are everyone. It's very possible they have more data than >> any company in the history of the world, with some of that info being very >> private. >> >> Yes, they are big brother in a way. At least with the data, maybe not the >> implementation of controls. >> >> Oh, forgot about Google Earth and their mapping programs, satellites, >> etc. >> On Feb 2, 2016 6:56 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The trouble with a valuation as high as Google, and to a lesser extent, >>> Apple, is that there is a huge "hype" or inflationary affect on the stock >>> price. A company like Exxon with real balance sheets representing real >>> assets, a huge, diverse workforce capable of building and creating real >>> things. Things that would would drastically affect the way the world works, >>> lives, plays and behaves every minute of the day if they didn't exist. >>> Those type of companies have been devalued to the point that at certain >>> points their cap rates sometimes reflect a discount on their balance >>> sheets. I know when I look at what a Google or apple valuation represents >>> that is what I think about and what I get from Travis' comments. The fact >>> that there is little tangible value in what the company owns. Intangible >>> value can easily disappear as quickly as it appeared. Look at Yahoo. >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 6:33 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >>>> I had a similar experience with a PC. It's not so much about the >>>> machine, but the intelligence of the operator. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Monday, February 1, 2016 11:36:40 PM >>>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] SAD day >>>> >>>> I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine. Nothing would >>>> change if Google went away tomorrow. >>>> >>>> Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple hadn't created >>>> the first iPhone. Same with tablets... look how many people tried tablets >>>> before Apple, and they all failed. >>>> >>>> I purchased a Macbook for my daughter headed to college 5 years ago. >>>> She used that laptop literally every day, for over 5 years. She graduated >>>> with two Bachelor's degrees... using that same laptop. Every paper, >>>> thousands of emails, etc... and she has never had a single issue... no >>>> viruses, no hardware issues, no software issues. Never a single issue. No >>>> OS reload, no malware scanners, nothing. It just works. Just like all the >>>> rest of Apple's products... they just work. >>>> >>>> Travis >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/1/2016 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>> >>>> The world's most popular site and you don't think the world would >>>> change? Really??? >>>> >>>> Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android. Tablets probably >>>> won't exist. Mp3 players would probably have come to fruition without >>>> them. What else do they have? >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> At least Apple makes products... products that literally changed the >>>>> computing world, the phone world, the retail world, created apps, and the >>>>> music world. Google created a search engine (actually copying Yahoo, >>>>> Webcrawler, Altavista and several others at the time). They aren't a >>>>> "product". They don't "sell" anything. They are a webpage, just like >>>>> Facebook. >>>>> >>>>> Imagine your life without Google or Facebook. NOTHING CHANGES. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their intelligence and hard >>>>> work... but they aren't "inventors". They didn't create anything new or >>>>> groundbreaking. >>>>> >>>>> Travis >>>>> >>>>> On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in that position than Apple >>>>> with their overpriced yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy consumer >>>>> electronics. >>>>> >>>>> Google is making themselves the curator of access to the world's >>>>> information and communications. When you consider the value of those, it's >>>>> not just the most valuable company in matters of money. The founders had >>>>> incredible foresight in addition to their intelligence and hard work. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis Johnson < <t...@ida.net> >>>>> t...@ida.net> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113> >>>>>> http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113 >>>>>> >>>>>> "The world isn't run by weapons anymore, or energy, or money. It's >>>>>> run by little ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's all just >>>>>> electrons." >>>>>> ~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992) >>>>>> >>>>>> Literally, a one page website for a company that is less than 19 >>>>>> years old is now the most valuable company in the world. :( >>>>>> >>>>>> Travis >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>
