They have done some mind blowing things though. Google Streetview being
the best example I can think of off the top of my head. People take
Streetview for granted at this point, but it is an absolutely ridiculous
achievement, whether you think it's a good thing or not. I always use
Google Streetview as an example when I'm talking to people about
programming - there are a lot of challenges you can solve with a liberal
application of insight and creativity, but the only way to copy Google
Streetview is to get cars driving down streets. And before Streetview
existed, if you had proposed to someone that you want to photograph
every house on every street, they would have said you were absolutely crazy.
I don't agree with everything Google does (and I actually don't use a
lot of their products because they have a nasty habit of just giving up
on stuff that you've come to rely on) but I really can't criticize them
on their accomplishments.
On 2/2/2016 7:27 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
Their mapping data is licensed from someone else, or at least it used
to be. Maybe they purchased them. Not that they haven't done unique
things with it. Im not saying knowledge and information is worthless.
I am saying it is much more likely to become so than other types of
hard assets. Google is one Google like innovation from becoming Yahoo
which has almost become AOL which was the Google of their day. During
that time, Exxon and UPR are still in their relative positions. Not
sexy but real things moving from where they are to where they are
demanded.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 7:03 AM Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com
<mailto:j...@kyneticwifi.com>> wrote:
Google owns the world's most popular smart phone, the world's most
possible search engine, many of the best data comparison and AI
algorithms, and the most popular device in schools across the
world - the chromebook.
Their customers are everyone. It's very possible they have more
data than any company in the history of the world, with some of
that info being very private.
Yes, they are big brother in a way. At least with the data, maybe
not the implementation of controls.
Oh, forgot about Google Earth and their mapping programs,
satellites, etc.
On Feb 2, 2016 6:56 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com
<mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The trouble with a valuation as high as Google, and to a
lesser extent, Apple, is that there is a huge "hype" or
inflationary affect on the stock price. A company like Exxon
with real balance sheets representing real assets, a huge,
diverse workforce capable of building and creating real
things. Things that would would drastically affect the way the
world works, lives, plays and behaves every minute of the day
if they didn't exist.
Those type of companies have been devalued to the point that
at certain points their cap rates sometimes reflect a discount
on their balance sheets. I know when I look at what a Google
or apple valuation represents that is what I think about and
what I get from Travis' comments. The fact that there is
little tangible value in what the company owns. Intangible
value can easily disappear as quickly as it appeared. Look at
Yahoo.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2016, 6:33 AM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
I had a similar experience with a PC. It's not so much
about the machine, but the intelligence of the operator.
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*From: *"Travis Johnson" <t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>>
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I would use Yahoo or Bing or any other search engine.
Nothing would change if Google went away tomorrow.
Blackberries and Android wouldn't even exist if Apple
hadn't created the first iPhone. Same with tablets... look
how many people tried tablets before Apple, and they all
failed.
I purchased a Macbook for my daughter headed to college 5
years ago. She used that laptop literally every day, for
over 5 years. She graduated with two Bachelor's degrees...
using that same laptop. Every paper, thousands of emails,
etc... and she has never had a single issue... no viruses,
no hardware issues, no software issues. Never a single
issue. No OS reload, no malware scanners, nothing. It just
works. Just like all the rest of Apple's products... they
just work.
Travis
On 2/1/2016 10:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
The world's most popular site and you don't think the
world would change? Really???
Apple is gone. People buy Blackberries and Android.
Tablets probably won't exist. Mp3 players would
probably have come to fruition without them. What
else do they have?
Josh Luthman
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On Feb 2, 2016 12:22 AM, "Travis Johnson"
<t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>> wrote:
At least Apple makes products... products that
literally changed the computing world, the phone
world, the retail world, created apps, and the
music world. Google created a search engine
(actually copying Yahoo, Webcrawler, Altavista and
several others at the time). They aren't a
"product". They don't "sell" anything. They are a
webpage, just like Facebook.
Imagine your life without Google or Facebook.
NOTHING CHANGES.
Yes, they built a better mousetrap using their
intelligence and hard work... but they aren't
"inventors". They didn't create anything new or
groundbreaking.
Travis
On 2/1/2016 10:09 PM, Colin Stanners wrote:
I'd much rather Google / Alphabet Inc. be in
that position than Apple with their overpriced
yet restricted / non-upgradable / crappy
consumer electronics.
Google is making themselves the curator of
access to the world's information and
communications. When you consider the value of
those, it's not just the most valuable company
in matters of money. The founders had
incredible foresight in addition to their
intelligence and hard work.
On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 10:55 PM, Travis
Johnson <t...@ida.net <mailto:t...@ida.net>>
wrote:
http://www.ibtimes.com/alphabet-inc-goog-surpasses-apple-inc-aapl-become-worlds-most-valuable-public-company-2289113
"The world isn't run by weapons anymore,
or energy, or money. It's run by little
ones and zeroes, little bits of data. It's
all just electrons."
~ Cosmo (Sneakers 1992)
Literally, a one page website for a
company that is less than 19 years old is
now the most valuable company in the world. :(
Travis
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