The cheapest method is to just submit 477 data that  you are 90% certain you 
can actually serve.  You might look up the serving area if the ILECs  in your 
areas.  If you claim via 477 that you serve their whole area or most of it, you 
will probably get a challenge.  

From: Cameron Crum 
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drive Testing

What Brian is talking about is what carriers do to model tune (sometimes). It 
is labor intensive and expensive and must be done with care. I would highly 
doubt most wisps have the time or resources to do something like this. I wonder 
what the value is as an insurance policy vs submitting with a "rougher" 
approach and then proving once you are challenged? 

On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 12:50 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

  Pretty sure the FCC would accept this if you did enough samples to prove the 
RF model.

  -----Original Message----- From: Brian Webster
  Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 11:47 AM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Drive Testing 


  The most practical way to accomplish this would be to just validate your RF 
model assumptions and then apply them to the fixed wireless propagation. As you 
mentioned there is no practical way to test 22 foot CPE install heights let 
alone the additional gain that a fixed CPE antenna provides as compared to some 
sort of radio you could practically have on a mobile platform. While you could 
go out and spot check with a push up mast that can be time consuming when it 
comes to gathering a significant number of sample points.

  The easier method would be to run an RF propagation with CPE parameters of a 
device you can install on a mobile unit and drive around with. You could then 
drive the areas that you predicted this coverage for and gather that data in a 
text file. Ideally you would do the same drive multiple times and under various 
climate conditions and seasonal changes. This would give you sample points that 
you can compare the measured to the predicted. I would do this in a GIS 
platform and create a delta table and map showing variations between predicted 
versus measured. I would also have the data for each clutter/tree class. This 
would allow me to investigate to see if there are consistent delta differences 
and if they only appear to be variations with certain clutter or if they 
predictions are off consistently for the whole predicted area. This would then 
point me in the proper direction to make changes in my RF tool, system wide 
would mean change the percentage numbers in the mode of variability (fade 
margin), major differences in the delta for various clutter classifications 
would tell me I need to adjust my clutter/land cover file settings. Once the 
model is tuned to your satisfaction you can then run your fixed CPE 
propagations with a lot better confidence factor.

  One thing to look out for though is the land cover data being used. I have 
both the latest and the next oldest clutter data for North America. There was 
some sort of formula change to the data in the latest release that created some 
decent sized changes in various parts of the country, this means your predicted 
coverage may be assuming trees or lack of in areas that the reality is 
different than the land cover data. You can get a Google Earth file that shows 
the current vintage land cover map/classification but I am not sure you can do 
the same for older versions. I am fortunate enough to have all of the data on a 
hard drive and can easily switch between the two and compare differences.

  Sometimes the old version is better, sometimes it’s the newer version, it 
depends on your location. Sometimes there are clutter classifications for an 
area such as Urban that you would not expect and thus your model is applying 
losses for a clutter class you are not seeing in real life. I have attached a 
Google Earth file with three separate areas in the US that have a new and old 
clutter map version for the same spot, you can turn them on and off at will 
while looking at the aerial imaging to see what the differences may be.

  Thank You,
  Brian Webster
  www.wirelessmapping.com
  www.Broadband-Mapping.com


  -----Original Message-----
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
  Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 12:11 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] Drive Testing

  I was thinking about this during my drive to work today, and the 
towercoverage.com thread just reminded me.

  Is there a realistic way to do drive testing for fixed wireless?

  I've plotted coverage using a 22' subscriber height, and I can't drive around 
with a 22' high mast (vehicles and loads have a 13'6" height limit in NY 
State).  So rather than collecting data as I drive --which would be relatively 
painless-- I'd have to stop, deploy a mast, record coord and reading, un-deploy 
mast, move to next test point, repeat.

  I think I could set a drone to a 22' flight ceiling.  I'd still have to drive 
the drone to different places because it will only work within range of the 
controller.

  Or maybe forget about drive testing.....is there a realistic way to validate 
your coverage map other than attempting installations and seeing which ones 
work?

  If you're wondering why, I've been asked by some officials "how do you 
validate this coverage projection?"  All I've really got is that we attempt 
installs and they usually work where they're supposed to. 

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