The cost is stupid. I know some of the other platforms don't have all of the same bells and whistles, but if you're still able to do the same features to end users, they don't know and won't care.
You also said something very, very important. "They are the biggest gpon vendor *in the US*". Calix made a very important acquisition a few years back when they bought Occam, which was a smart move. Some people buy PMP4xx. Some people buy UBNT (and more units are sold). Some people buy Calix. Some people buy Huawei, or $vendor (and more units are sold). All have their places. On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 10:37 PM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com> wrote: > If you are thinking about GPON, I would totally go with Calix. They are the > biggest gpon vendor in the US, and they have a tone of new onts that came > out. Indoor units with just Ethernet, or built in ac routers. Their stuff > is the bomb. > > > > Craig R. Schmaderer > > CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc. > > Ph: 402-372-1975 | Fax: 402-372-1058 > > Direct: 402-372-1052 > > > > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Wiatowski > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2016 9:31 PM > > > To: af@afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active or GPon? > > > > So, I understand the benefits of GPon ... What brand would you consider? > ... I have been looking at Alphion. Huawei seems like a good option... But > much more expensive. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > ______________________________ > > Andreas Wiatowski | CEO > > Silo Wireless Inc. > > Email andr...@silowireless.com > > 19 Sage Court > > Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) > > Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free > +1.866.727.4138 > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > > Date: 2016-02-12 10:21 PM (GMT-05:00) > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active or GPon? > > > > You realize the transport core to the gpon OLT chassis is still active fiber > in many designs, right? I also am unsure if you are aware of the upgrade > process to NG-PON2 - you can run it on the same fiber strand as your > existing PON split. Add the new card into the chassis and move the split > over to the new SFP. Upgrade the customers at your leisure. > > On Feb 12, 2016 9:13 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Key part there is, is going to be... is it available or shipping now? If > somebody wants to start a build now, the choice is between GPON or active. > > Having an active fiber path, even with just one strand (for BiDi optics) > gives you a nearly infinite lifespan of the installed light path and cable > plant, if things are maintained correctly. With a dedicated light path from > each powered network node to the customer you could upgrade to active-E 10, > then 40, then 100Gbps someday. Yes we will see customers with 10GbE optics > in the next ten years. And maybe in 20 or 30 years from now it'll be cheap > and easy to connect each customer with an SFP-sized coherent QPSK 100GbE > optic at each end. > > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 7:08 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > 10-40Gbps on NG-PON2 is going to be the real deal, and betting against > it vs active ethernet at scale for residential service is just... > dumb, to be honest (IMO). > > The size of your backbone ends up being monstrous with active, as well > as having to keep the cabinets powered, UPS+batteries, enclosurers > maintained, etc. PON is simply so much cheaper are scale, and in > residential every dollar counts. > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:56 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> wrote: >> I did forget to mention that I'm firmly on the side of activeE being the >> best choice, for one big reason... You can use all kinds of SFP-based >> equipment (24/48-port 1U switches) or chassis based switches and routers >> with 24/48-port blades from a huge variety of manufacturers. >> >> There's a lot of 48-port SFP stuff out there on the grey/refurb/used >> market >> that came out of datacenters, and no longer meets the bandwidth needs for >> people who are doing 10GbE (or 2x10GbE) to each bare metal hypervisor. But >> that same equipment is perfect for activeE. >> >> Same idea as a Cisco 3750G-48 is no longer enough bandwidth for 1000BaseT >> to >> the server in colo environments, but is perfect for MDU use. >> >> >> GPON/EPON/whateverPON is all a mess of manufacturer proprietary CPEs and >> non-interoperable stuff. Whereas with activeE and a real ethernet port for >> each customer you can use $30 media converters as your demarc. >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 4:53 PM, Andreas Wiatowski >> <andr...@silowireless.com> wrote: >>> > >>> Hi all, >>> >>> Looking to do my first ftth for about 110 homes. >>> If I do active, what switch platform would you use for sfp in cabinet >>> and >>> in home router/cabinet. >>> >>> If GPon, what vendor would you choose that is cost effective/reliable >>> >>> I understand the full limitations of GPon.. But I feel it is an >>> attractive >>> proposition compared to active... And the few systems I have seen have a >>> road map to faster olt access. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> ______________________________ >>> >>> Andreas Wiatowski | CEO >>> >>> Silo Wireless Inc. >>> >>> Email andr...@silowireless.com >>> >>> 19 Sage Court >>> >>> Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) >>> >>> Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free >>> +1.866.727.4138 >> >> > >
