Here's the compromise

http://apps.fcc.gov/ecfs/document/view?id=60001333104

Not sure where it stands today, maybe Steve Coran could give us an update.



On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> Pushed it back as in not taking effect summer 2016???
>
>
> Josh Luthman
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> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 11:00 PM, Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ch...@shelbybb.com');>> wrote:
>
>> That's correct, as I understood it.
>>
>> On Tuesday, February 23, 2016, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us
>> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af...@zirkel.us');>> wrote:
>>
>>> OOBE rules have/are being modified so as to meet the intended DoD
>>> requirements but not hamstring the manufacturers with expensive filters
>>> etc.  I believe they pushed back some or all of the implementation for a
>>> year.  there was an explanation at last years wispapalooza on the technical
>>> details and i know steve coran posted some filings etc. to the list a while
>>> back.  I think the FCC chose the UBNT method over the WISPA/JAB method.
>>>
>>> don't quote me on this tho...i might have just been drunk in vegas and
>>> dreamed all this up lol.
>>>
>>> -Sean
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Matt <matt.mailingli...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Will the "next generation PMP 450 SM" have the same throughput and
>>>> range as the current standard PMP450 SM with a reflector dish in 5.8
>>>> ghz band?  Just concerned the new OOBE rules might reduce usefulness
>>>> of 5 ghz band for longer range PtmP and PTP?  I am guessing they will
>>>> have some added filtering to meet the OOBE rules and just hoping this
>>>> does not reduce range terribly?  24 volt or 48 volt POE?  It would be
>>>> nice if they worked on either voltage to make swap outs easier.  Will
>>>> also slightly reduce cost of swapping power supplies.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 8:36 AM, Matt Mangriotis
>>>> <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>> > YES!
>>>> >
>>>> > We are undertaking this project and working toward a next generation
>>>> PMP 450
>>>> > SM that will cover the entire 5 GHz band (from 4.9-5.9 GHz), and be
>>>> less
>>>> > expensive than the 450i SM.
>>>> >
>>>> > At this point, I can’t comment on much surrounding the launch, as
>>>> we’ve only
>>>> > recently embarked down this path.
>>>> >
>>>> > Matt
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
>>>> > Sent: Sunday, February 21, 2016 8:59 PM
>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Thank you Matt. I appreciate the info.
>>>> >
>>>> > Are there any plans on creating 1 450 SM that can handle all 4
>>>> frequencies?
>>>> >
>>>> > That would be super....
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 3:30 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > No, the regular 450 is hardware limited to 5470-5900.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On 2/20/2016 3:55 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Will the 450 CPE work in 5.2?
>>>> >
>>>> > Jeff Broadwick
>>>> >
>>>> > ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>>> >
>>>> > 312-205-2519 Office
>>>> >
>>>> > 574-220-7826 Cell
>>>> >
>>>> > jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 2:45 PM, Tushar Patel <tpa...@ecpi.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Matt,
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > To take advantage don't we need cheaper CPE?
>>>> >
>>>> > Tushar
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Feb 20, 2016, at 12:43 PM, Matt Mangriotis
>>>> > <matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Didn’t see anyone answer you on this Sam.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 5.1 GHz (UNII-1) is 100 MHz (5150-5250 MHz), and is not DFS
>>>> controlled, and
>>>> > follows similar rules to 5.8 GHz.  This band is available in R14.1.1.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 5.2 GHz (UNII-2) is also 100 MHz (5250-5350 MHz), but is a bit less
>>>> useful
>>>> > in that the max EIRP allowed is 30 dBm and it’s subject to DFS radar
>>>> > detection mechanisms.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Additional info: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U-NII
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Taking advantage of these bands, however, can prove hugely useful and
>>>> > several of our customers are getting equipment deployed and working
>>>> soon.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > (Note: 5.2 and 5.4 will be supported in the R14.1.2 beta release that
>>>> will
>>>> > be out very soon).
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Matt
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie
>>>> > Sent: Friday, February 19, 2016 4:54 PM
>>>> > To: af@afmug.com
>>>> > Subject: [AFMUG] 450i 5.1 and 5.2 non overlapping channels?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Is there any documentation or list knowledge on how big each
>>>> frequency is?
>>>> >
>>>> > Just wondering if it is worth it to go to the 450i and the
>>>> ridiculously
>>>> > expensive SM's.
>>>> >
>>>> > We are running out of spectrum in 5.4 and 5.8 though.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sam Lambie
>>>> > Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> > 575-758-7598 Office
>>>> > www.Taosnet.com
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> >
>>>> > --
>>>> > Sam Lambie
>>>> > Taosnet Wireless Tech.
>>>> > 575-758-7598 Office
>>>> > www.Taosnet.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> Chuck
>>
>
>

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