They didn't run with our recommendation to make the radomes the same? Did the make the mounts the same?
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 10:42:51 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance Seriously, no reseller will sell you just the 450d radome w/ the sub-reflector? I don't understand why Cambium would be hard assed about selling just the 450d radome kit. Refusing to sell something they make seems pretty stupid. The sub-reflector is just the front of the 110 wire suspended kit and snaps into the front of the radome, as I'm sure you're aware. If you wanted, you could rip off the suspenders. I've accidentally broken a few. We haven't bought any 450d's yet. The antenna gain is calculated incorrectly, so the DFS band Tx power is like 10dB low, which means no worky for me. We're doing a lot of 5.4GHz now and we're not going to run the 14.1.2 beta builds in mass. So yeah, I'm just not going there yet. We haven't done any PTP links without radomes for the past several years. It just makes sense. Not only for wind loading, but ice and heavy wet snow, which we're about to get here tomorrow damnit! On 2/23/2016 9:03 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: Yep you guys hit the nail on the head. It’s the radome for us. I just cant risk another drop due to ice / snow packing in a dish. I tried to drum up enough interest in Chucks condom but not enough jumped on board. I didn’t even get a response from Cambium when I asked about the 450d radomes becoming available. Although we did confirm they would fit / work. Kind of pissed me off since I was told a year ago at animal farm they would have one for the 110. Now they have it but won’t sell it. I don’t mind having redundant links in place. Its been the plan since we started putting up the 110’s. When it became obvious that they were not going to give us radomes we backed off the install schedule for the second links. So now we have to deploy the 200’s to get the radomes but have to give up GPS. I should have just deployed the microtik dishes with Eptp and radomes to start. That was the plan before I was told the force 110 would have them. Best regards Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 8:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance Wouldn't it be way cheaper and easier to use Chuck's condom radome? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 23, 2016 9:38 PM, "George Skorup" < geo...@cbcast.com > wrote: We've been putting radomes on ALL of the Force200's. Would be nice if they could come up with a sync-over-power variant of the 200. ..... or let us order the 450d radome w/ sub-reflector element. The Force110 and 450d is the same reflector.. and feed. Just sayin. On 2/23/2016 8:32 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: <blockquote> Why go through the effort of replacing them? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Feb 23, 2016 9:31 PM, "Brandon Yuchasz" < li...@gogebicrange.net > wrote: Not exactly what you are asking but we have done a lot of 10 to 12 mile links with the stock force 110 and got full modulation. I have not put up the force 200 yet but plan to start replacing all the force 110 links with them as soon as the weather warms a bit. The old 110s will become backup links. Best regards, Brandon Yuchasz GogebicRange.net www.gogebicrange.net From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Joseph Marsh Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 5:32 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: Force 200 Ptp distance Thanks for the info Mathew ... I don't like more than 10 miles. But was curious at 20 On Feb 23, 2016 5:28 PM, "Mathew Howard" < mhoward...@gmail.com > wrote: Yeah - 40 miles appears to be the max for ePMP. Realistically, it *should* be possible to get full modulation at 8 miles with Force 200's, but at 20 miles, you're going to want bigger dishes. On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Chuck McCown < ch...@wbmfg.com > wrote: As a non smart-ass answer, there are probably some timing constraints that will limit the distance before the RF will, assuming LOS. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:47 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance I think earth curvature will probably be the limiting factor. From: Joseph Marsh Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:45 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Force 200 Ptp distance What is the max distance for a force 200 Ptp link? </blockquote>
