I think you are racist against older white dudes you and your anecdotal evidence.
On Sat, Mar 12, 2016, 10:59 AM Chuck McCown <[email protected]> wrote: > Screw farm work. God Bless Farmers and Ranchers. I hate farm work. > > I grew up in Oregon –dry land wheat and cattle. Relatives had fruit. > Hispanics were absolutely – ABSOLUTELY -necessary to get the fruit > harvested. Still are. > > In technology jobs, I have fired more Whites than Hispanics for drug > abuse. Probably by a factor of 10:1 > My experience is that Hispanics are harder workers and more trustworthy > than any other group at the lower pay scales. I hate hiring white folks at > the entry levels unless then are under 21 years old. If they are 35 and > applying for entry level there must be drugs involved. > > I cannot remember ever having a Hispanic steal from me. 100% white dudes > and as I recall 100% drug use involved. > > > *From:* Jaime Solorza <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:47 AM > *To:* Animal Farm <[email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? > funny thing Ken....when I spoke at a conference for ElectroComm with Matt > Larsen and Marlon Schaefer some guy came up to me after talk and asked what > I thought about illegal immigration and how I had obtain a permit to travel > in US. I chuckled and asked where he was from...Nebraska...I told him to > me it was a simple case of supply and demand just like drugs. If American > companies and farmers didn't hire them, they wouldn't be here. Many > natives do not want to work in the sun and do hard work for little pay or > in fact for decent pay. Ask Chuck about working on a farm or others on > this list....that is back breaking work and if you own the farm the pay is > really low. When Border Patrol made some big raids a few years back and > deported hundreds of illegals, some farmers and growers tried to hire US > born workers and many quit by noon. Crops and fruits went bad. Millions > of dollars in produce lost. So like drugs, if there is a demand, someone > will supply. Trump uses illegals in his hotels and resorts around US. > He speaks with fork tongue. > I remember one of you posted you would hire Hispanic work force because > they are good workers. I found that that interesting..I fired an entire > Hispanic crew because they started abusing cocaine and pawning equipment. > The only loyal employee was a Mexican tower guy that I used on cross border > shots up and down Texas border. He could not work in US so after we > finished the job, I closed the company. I could pretend to be naive and > say my guys followed the white man's ways.....but I am blessed I don;t > think that way. > My ex-wife is a Perry, ugh, yes part of that Perry group, so my kids are > Chingos...(half Chicano-half Gringo)..huh....the cognus scenti will > appreciate one. One of my granddaughters, Julianna Juana Gandara Solorza > is a real mixture..Irish, British,Spanish, Mexican and Native > American....oh wait she is an AMERICAN!!!!!!!! > > Jaime Solorza > Wireless Systems Architect > 915-861-1390 > > On Sat, Mar 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes, I think your statements sound racist, and finally I call your out >> for it. Why is that over the line? You have made some pretty inflammatory >> statements, but it seems you can’t take any criticism? >> >> We have a WISPA conference coming up. One thing I always notice is we >> are not a very diverse crowd. Almost all white men. That leads to the >> belief that prejudice is OK because everyone here thinks that way too. >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:14 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> >> That’s out of line Ken, at any level. What matters to me is that the >> violence fostered by ignorant people in our society who don’t contribute, >> but foster racial hatred and disdain for the Constitution, the Laws of this >> country, and want special treatment. I don’t give a crap what color they >> are but they keep bringing it up. Black Lives Matter, Black Caucuses, etc… >> The rest of us just want everyone to be Americans but it’s liberals that >> won’t let race go because they need it to stay in power. >> >> >> >> You want to attack me for my beliefs Ken, that’s fine. You want to call >> me a racist, what I really want to tell you will get me banned. I’m done >> with this and Ken, please don’t ever speak to me again. You went too far. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:17 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> >> >> Black people really seem to set you off. >> >> >> >> *From:* Rory Conaway <[email protected]> >> >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:51 AM >> >> *To:* [email protected] >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> >> >> Faisal, I’m ready to continue our other discussion. BTW, Black Lives >> Matter showed up to the Chicago rally and now there is looting and gun >> fire. I really doubt the Trump supporters are doing that. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:32 AM >> *To:* [email protected] >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> >> >> I hope you realize that everyone participating in this discussion is an >> Adult, and a Patriot. Everyone is very much concerned about the future of >> our great nation. The discussion is over the events as they are unfolding. >> >> >> >> It is very interesting to me, as an independent, that folks on the right >> are so upset, and so polarized in their view that they are willing to >> accept bad behavior from anyone of their affiliated party, since that >> person can do nothing wrong and the other side cannot do nothing right... >> >> >> >> I fully understand that everyone is passionate, but exchange of views in >> a polite healthy manner is the proper decorum, watching the GOP primaries >> turn into a circus act is embarrassing, because the world is watching, >> and to see folks trying to explain and justify is even more troubling. >> >> >> >> Bad behavior is bad behavior, it should be called out, and it should not >> bt acceptable at any level from anyone. While the media is fully >> responsible for fueling the fire and covering only the inciting stuff.... >> watch closely the clips of trouble at the Trump rallies, there appears to >> be an steadily increasing amount of 'supporter participation' in this bad >> behavior.... (when someone is being lead out, by security there are folks >> hitting and throwing punches at the person being lead out....).. and Mr >> Trump constantly refuses to condemn such behavior, which indicates approval. >> >> >> >> While you can explain it and justify it which ever way you want, some of >> us who have had a broader view of the world, have seen this type of >> behavior and events , in the other parts of the world.. and the end results >> were not very good for anyone.... As such their is rising concern. >> >> >> >> The GOP is playing with Fire, one they think they can control.... >> historically speaking when that particular type of genie is let out of the >> bottle, no one has been able to control it ..... >> >> >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected] >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Rory Conaway" <[email protected]> >> *To: *[email protected] >> *Sent: *Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:05:42 AM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> Jaime, travel to the WWII museum and learn about the sacrifices we made >> as a country to stop men like Hitler. You have so mischaracterized what >> Trump is saying but I’d rather take this discussion elsewhere to someplace >> like Facebook. >> >> >> >> Rory >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On >> Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza >> *Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:59 AM >> *To:* Animal Farm >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over? >> >> >> >> Fault? Its human nature....you push me and I push back...most fights >> start that way...literally and figuratively... Trump doesn't deny he has >> asked him audience to beat the crap of those "bad dudes"...let's go back to >> old days....what civil rights riots? Wallace? Lynching? He is playing to >> the older white man who fears foreigners are taking over the US. Xenophobia >> was one of Hitler and others methods used to create a fervor and led to >> murder of millions. i have a different perspective on things from my >> ancestors and upbringing plus traveling. Travel outside USA and your eyes >> open a bit more. I normally stay quiet on politics but not this >> time.....too much at stake...Trump will not win. >> >> >> >>
