You know what Ken, let’s do this.
You need me to sound racist because your liberal mindset is that
everyone is a victim. I probably have a much wider diversity of
friends, business partners, and colleagues than you do and never
has anyone ever called me racist. Because I abhor racial division
and call it out for what it is, an excuse for failure and control
by race hustlers, I’m a racist. That’s the pea-brained mentality
of the intellectually dishonest. You simply can’t understand
that there are those of us who don’t care about race, we simply
don’t have time for it in our lives and we don’t see it.
However, we can define the problems created by race, race
hustlers, and liberals who don’t want to face facts, just blame
everyone else for their problems and failures.
What I care about is that there is a class of people that are not
assimilating into society because nobody wants to face the
facts. You would rather stick your head in the sand and call out
those of us who see the truth racists. Here is a fact, not
having a solid family support system, not following the law, and
not working hard is a recipe for failure, regardless of the
race. If you don’t want to face that fact, so be it. Stick your
head in the sand, blame me and call me names, and stand by while
our country falls apart because you don’t have the intellectual
honesty to face that fact that the greatest country in the world
is falling apart from within and from the outside. Hell yes, I
want our borders sealed and immigrants required to learn our
language and honor our heritage. Hell yes I want every child to
get a good education that honors this country, the founders that
gave it to us, and the men and women who died to protect it.
And until we recognize that keeping an entire culture in poverty
and ignorance by not expecting them to excel is a bad thing, then
we as a country are doomed to further internal violence, strife,
and separation. I don’t care about the color, I care about the
fact that color is used as an excuse.
The sad part is it’s not just any specific culture, it’s the
entire generation. There isn’t a manufacturer here that doesn’t
have engineering outside this country because they can’t find
enough engineering talent within our own borders because our
culture and education failed an entire generation. And as for
Obama, his policies have escalated this problem, including
unemployment, a poor economy, lower standards of living, hatred
of police and authority, and racial division and escalation. So
if you are big supporter of him, congratulations, you picked a
real winner there. You want the truth, that’s it. So bring it
on Ken. I’ll back my conclusions with the facts from the Census
bureau, the FBI, the U.S Department of the Interior, the U.S.
Bureau of Labor, and the Bureau of Economic Analysis but those
facts won’t matter will they?
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:25 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Yes, I think your statements sound racist, and finally I call
your out for it. Why is that over the line? You have made some
pretty inflammatory statements, but it seems you can’t take any
criticism?
We have a WISPA conference coming up. One thing I always notice
is we are not a very diverse crowd. Almost all white men. That
leads to the belief that prejudice is OK because everyone here
thinks that way too.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 10:14 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
That’s out of line Ken, at any level. What matters to me is that
the violence fostered by ignorant people in our society who don’t
contribute, but foster racial hatred and disdain for the
Constitution, the Laws of this country, and want special
treatment. I don’t give a crap what color they are but they keep
bringing it up. Black Lives Matter, Black Caucuses, etc… The
rest of us just want everyone to be Americans but it’s liberals
that won’t let race go because they need it to stay in power.
You want to attack me for my beliefs Ken, that’s fine. You want
to call me a racist, what I really want to tell you will get me
banned. I’m done with this and Ken, please don’t ever speak to
me again. You went too far.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:17 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Black people really seem to set you off.
*From:*Rory Conaway <mailto:[email protected]>
*Sent:*Saturday, March 12, 2016 8:51 AM
*To:*[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Faisal, I’m ready to continue our other discussion. BTW, Black
Lives Matter showed up to the Chicago rally and now there is
looting and gun fire. I really doubt the Trump supporters are
doing that.
Rory
*From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 7:32 AM
*To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
I hope you realize that everyone participating in this discussion
is an Adult, and a Patriot. Everyone is very much concerned about
the future of our great nation. The discussion is over the events
as they are unfolding.
It is very interesting to me, as an independent, that folks on
the right are so upset, and so polarized in their view that they
are willing to accept bad behavior from anyone of their
affiliated party, since that person can do nothing wrong and the
other side cannot do nothing right...
I fully understand that everyone is passionate, but exchange of
views in a polite healthy manner is the proper decorum, watching
the GOP primaries turn into a circus act is embarrassing,
because the world is watching, and to see folks trying to explain
and justify is even more troubling.
Bad behavior is bad behavior, it should be called out, and it
should not bt acceptable at any level from anyone. While the
media is fully responsible for fueling the fire and covering only
the inciting stuff.... watch closely the clips of trouble at the
Trump rallies, there appears to be an steadily increasing amount
of 'supporter participation' in this bad behavior.... (when
someone is being lead out, by security there are folks hitting
and throwing punches at the person being lead out....).. and Mr
Trump constantly refuses to condemn such behavior, which
indicates approval.
While you can explain it and justify it which ever way you want,
some of us who have had a broader view of the world, have seen
this type of behavior and events , in the other parts of the
world.. and the end results were not very good for anyone.... As
such their is rising concern.
The GOP is playing with Fire, one they think they can control....
historically speaking when that particular type of genie is let
out of the bottle, no one has been able to control it .....
:)
Regards
Faisal Imtiaz
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*From: *"Rory Conaway"
<<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]>
*To: *<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]
*Sent: *Saturday, March 12, 2016 9:05:42 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Jaime, travel to the WWII museum and learn about the
sacrifices we made as a country to stop men like Hitler. You
have so mischaracterized what Trump is saying but I’d rather
take this discussion elsewhere to someplace like Facebook.
Rory
*From:*Af
[<mailto:[email protected]>mailto:[email protected]]
*On Behalf Of *Jaime Solorza
*Sent:* Saturday, March 12, 2016 6:59 AM
*To:* Animal Farm
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: Is it 1968 all over?
Fault? Its human nature....you push me and I push back...most
fights start that way...literally and figuratively... Trump
doesn't deny he has asked him audience to beat the crap of
those "bad dudes"...let's go back to old days....what civil
rights riots? Wallace? Lynching? He is playing to the
older white man who fears foreigners are taking over the US.
Xenophobia was one of Hitler and others methods used to
create a fervor and led to murder of millions. i have a
different perspective on things from my ancestors and
upbringing plus traveling. Travel outside USA and your eyes
open a bit more. I normally stay quiet on politics but not
this time.....too much at stake...Trump will not win.
