I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of
telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling
telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran:


1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way
to buy it from Dubai.

2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear
into Iran?  There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up
with local Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how
to run Tor, how to get around government internet censorship, move VPN
traffic through their ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered
media. The US government has a whole Farsi language division funded from
the Voice of America/BBG (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying
to reach Iranians.  There are a shitload of Iranians that want to use
Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc.  More communication with the outside world
is good.

http://www.radiofarda.com/



On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
wrote:

> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's internet
> snooping and repression, right?
> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions.
>>
>>
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0
>>
>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran
>> and not use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic.  But it’s a
>> little humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company
>> that is clearly Huawei.
>>
>>
>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
>>
>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is indisputable.
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>
>>
>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
>>
>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China has
>> by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal workforce?
>> Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and beliefs fall 100%
>> in line with things the government as a whole says or does?
>>
>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was
>> bullshit put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco
>> which was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years
>> and then used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right?
>>
>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything
>> "bad" in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and
>> NSA. They have an incredible amount of data and control.
>>
>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid
>> shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA
>> was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put
>> backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper -
>> putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the
>> process?
>>
>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't
>> done shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are
>> insinuating that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag
>> while simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own  government
>> and its employees.
>>
>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective.
>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" <
>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one
>>> of the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious.
>>> This person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a
>>> result.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that.
>>>> Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM
>>>> *To:* af
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... you
>>>> can most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the more
>>>> costly parts of doing LTE.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie <
>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Good interview.  A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about
>>>> though.  First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE?  I realize it isn't a
>>>> ton of money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there.  Also,
>>>> I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched the
>>>> specific "fellow" that they're talking about.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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