Ah okay. Had no idea such a thing existed. On Mar 20, 2016 7:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
> WIC, NM, PA, etc. Plug in card for a modular router. > > *From:* Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 7:08 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview > > > Define module? > On Mar 20, 2016 6:56 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > >> I’m not sure I equate “previously owned” with “grey market”. And if >> Cisco had a problem with it, they didn’t have to sell you a Smartnet >> contract for the used gear. Pretty good actually selling a full year HW/SW >> maintenance contract just so you can upgrade the SW. >> >> What I won’t do is buy the “new” Cisco modules from Hong Kong that are >> probably counterfeit. Even if they are made from the same parts in the >> same factory. >> >> >> *From:* Bruce Robertson <br...@pooh.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:23 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> >> I *never* *ever* did that........................... >> >> On 03/20/2016 02:17 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> >> Funny, how many of us bought the cheapest Cisco thing we could find and >> registered it so we could get fresh software for the grey market more >> expensive routers we deployed.... hmmm???? >> >> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 2:50 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >> >> I really don't see the point of trying to prevent shipments of >> telecom/IT/networking equipment to Iran, or punishing anybody for selling >> telecom/IT/networking gear to Iran: >> >> >> 1) If people in Iran really want the stuff they will simply arrange a way >> to buy it from Dubai. >> >> 2) Isn't it a good thing to ship any sort of computer/networking/ISP gear >> into Iran? There's a very active community of Iranians who have come up >> with local Farsi language documents/training guides and information on how >> to run Tor, how to get around government internet censorship, move VPN >> traffic through their ISPs' blackholes. Iranians want to read unfettered >> media. The US government has a whole Farsi language division funded from >> the Voice of America/BBG (Broadcasting Board of Governors) that is trying >> to reach Iranians. There are a shitload of Iranians that want to use >> Facebook, Whatsapp, Skype, etc. More communication with the outside world >> is good. >> >> http://www.radiofarda.com/ >> >> >> >> On Sun, Mar 20, 2016 at 11:00 AM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> You are familiar with Cisco developing products to aid in China's >>> internet snooping and repression, right? >>> On Mar 20, 2016 12:16 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Recent article raises suspicions Huawei violated Iran sanctions. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/19/technology/zte-document-raises-questions-about-huawei-and-sanctions.html?_r=0 >>>> >>>> Although expecting Chinese companies to obey our sanctions against Iran >>>> and not use tricks to get around them is probably unrealistic. But it’s a >>>> little humorous reading how ZTE copied the tricks of an unnamed company >>>> that is clearly Huawei. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Sent:* Sunday, March 20, 2016 11:44 AM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> >>>> Some of it is bull, but the blatant duplication of Cisco is >>>> indisputable. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From: *"Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Saturday, March 19, 2016 6:44:02 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>> >>>> Has anybody taken a look at the number of government employees China >>>> has by any chance? What about the number of DoD and general federal >>>> workforce? Do those members of the workforce - do their policies and >>>> beliefs fall 100% in line with things the government as a whole says or >>>> does? >>>> >>>> You guys realize that half the shit you've heard about Huawei was >>>> bullshit put for by our government who were acting as mouthpieces for Cisco >>>> which was later RECANTED by our own government in just a few short years >>>> and then used in FEDERALLY FUNDED PROJECTS, right? >>>> >>>> I'm curious if maybe Google, Amazon, and Facebook have done anything >>>> "bad" in your eyes... Since they have direct connections to the CIA and >>>> NSA. They have an incredible amount of data and control. >>>> >>>> What's that, the NSA has intercepted routing and switching products mid >>>> shipment and modified them before sending them out? What's that, the NSA >>>> was caught weakening encryption protocols, the Linux kernel, and put >>>> backdoors in equipment from companies like Fortigate, Cisco, and Juniper - >>>> putting our own countries citizens and world governments at risk in the >>>> process? >>>> >>>> I'm not saying that Huawei is any kind of saint, or that they haven't >>>> done shitty things in the past - my problem is you and others are >>>> insinuating that every employee Huawei has ever had is some kind of scumbag >>>> while simultaneously holding up a different mirror to our own government >>>> and its employees. >>>> >>>> For fukes sake get some goddamn perspective. >>>> On Mar 19, 2016 6:30 PM, "Jason McKemie" < >>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I'd tend to agree, hence my concern. I'm not sure that just having one >>>>> of the lead people from Huawei is any connection other than the obvious. >>>>> This person could have had issues with the company as well, and left as a >>>>> result. >>>>> >>>>> On Saturday, March 19, 2016, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> If there is a Huawei connection, we won’t touch it, simple as that. >>>>>> Huawei is both a thief and an arm of the Chinese government. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Rory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard >>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:03 PM >>>>>> *To:* af >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Baicells Interview >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm assuming that $1/month is for some kind of cloud based EPC.... >>>>>> you can most likely buy your own instead, but that seems to be one of the >>>>>> more costly parts of doing LTE. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 19, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Jason McKemie < >>>>>> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Good interview. A couple things I'm wondering / concerned about >>>>>> though. First of all, what's with the $1/month/CPE? I realize it isn't >>>>>> a >>>>>> ton of money, just seems like an expense that shouldn't be there. Also, >>>>>> I'm a little wary of the Huawei tie-in - although I haven't researched >>>>>> the >>>>>> specific "fellow" that they're talking about. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5vNs0roFK4 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- >>>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> !DSPAM:2,56ef137a138861700012119! >> >> >>
