not calling you a dolt, btw

On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:54 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> you disappoint me chuck. he never said muslims, he said isis, kind of a
> slight difference there. You took the spoon and drank the koolaid with it,
> might as well just drink from the cup :-)
>
> And seriously, with isis (which is kind of a family affair) you
> realistically do need to eliminate three generations to even begin to
> address the issue. That applies to anyone though who believes in what they
> teach their offspring, that was taught to them by their parents.
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Trump would be slightly more palatable if he stuck to his positions.  He
>> will say something like “kill all Muslims and their familes”  one week and
>> the next transition to “waterboard all Muslims”, then “soften” it due to
>> his extreme “flexibility” to “we need skilled Muslims”...
>>
>> Ok, being hyperbolic myself here but not too far off the mark on Isis,
>> Syrian refugees, the wall and H1B.  A Trump apologist might suggest that
>> this proves he can learn and pivot.  I think he is the ultimate lying
>> politician.  He just does not have the experience with the media tracking
>> every word he has ever said or will say.  The others are a bit more chary
>> and street-wise.
>>
>> I am not sure an outsider in Washington has a chance of being effective
>> at anything.  At least not for the first few years.  Especially for a
>> president.  Like saying a walk on (having never played - even in high
>> school) in the NFL can play QB and score in the super bowl.  It will never
>> happen.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:38 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>>
>> I would say that Trump is about the last person that I would vote for
>> anything. Starting at dog catcher. There are a few others I would put into
>> the same category. Cruz & Carson would be on the list as "not fit for dog
>> catcher".
>>
>> bp
>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>
>>
>> On 3/21/2016 9:30 AM, Travis Johnson wrote:
>>
>> It's funny that everyone says "You can't say that and win"... yet Utah
>> has voted Republican for the last 10 elections (40 years). I think it's a
>> lot like Idaho, that many people check the first "Republican" box on the
>> first page, and never turn the book to even see who that is or what they
>> even stand for.
>>
>> Do you really think if Trump wins the nomination that Utah would vote for
>> Hillary over Trump? A woman as President, in a state of 50% Mormon, where
>> they don't allow women to hold any real leadership positions?
>>
>> Trump knows he has Utah and Idaho because they have voted Red for the
>> last 40 years.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 3/21/2016 10:13 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> Would  you want a new CEO of a WISP to be hired from the auto insurance
>> industry or perhaps a retired school principal?
>>
>> IMO A chief executive should have some experience with the legislative
>> process and some military experience.
>> Foreign policy experience would be something I would look for on a
>> resume.
>>
>> Trump has been saying that he doesn’t really mean or believe some of the
>> hyperbolic things that have came out of his mouth.
>>
>> I know  the Lt. Gov fairly well here in Utah.  His family are 100 year
>> ILEC owners.  Have known them for years.
>> This is what he said after the Trump speech:
>>
>> "I need to say this, OK, ...and last night Donald Trump did something and
>> said something that I never thought I'd see a candidate for president do
>> and say, especially someone in the Republican Party."
>> "Think about that for a second," Cox told the crowd. "A person running
>> for office, in our party, thinks it's OK that if you question his politics,
>> he can question your religion. I have a message for the 3 million people in
>> Utah for Mr. Donald Trump: That's not how we roll in Utah, and that's not
>> how we roll in the United States of America."
>>
>>
>> *From:* Travis Johnson <t...@ida.net>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 10:01 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>>
>> It's time for a change... that's the bottom line. Everyone else running
>> is a "lifer"... someone that has been in politics or has wanted to be,
>> their entire life. Nobody else is going to make any REAL changes. It's time
>> for something different.
>>
>> It's also refreshing to have someone say what they REALLY think...
>> instead of giving lip service for six months before the election, and then
>> having them not do anything that they said. At least Trump is saying what
>> he thinks.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 3/21/2016 9:24 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>
>> He may be super smart and has ideas that really could be good for the
>> country.
>> He may be a super skilled negotiator.  He may be lots of things.
>>
>> He looks like a megalomaniac bully that has no social graces.  I don’t
>> care if he was running for the local chamber of commerce, you just cannot
>> act like that if you want to represent me and my interests.
>>
>> *From:* Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 9:20 AM
>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>>
>>
>> Even some Mennonite folks I spoke with in Cauthemoc think Trump is bad
>> for US.
>> On Mar 21, 2016 9:07 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Trump questioned Romney's faith.  Not something you do in Utah.
>>>
>>> And Romney is a special case.  He came in and turned around the winter
>>> Olympics here and really saved the day.
>>> Kinda a favorite son.
>>>
>>> *From:* Kurt Fankhauser <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 21, 2016 8:47 AM
>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Trump in Utah
>>>
>>> What happened on Friday?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> Kurt Fankhauser
>>> Wavelinc Communications
>>> P.O. Box 126
>>> Bucyrus, OH 44820
>>> <http://www.wavelinc.com>http://www.wavelinc.com
>>> tel. 419-562-6405
>>> fax. 419-617-0110
>>>
>>> On Mar 20, 2016, at 5:21 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Latest polls in Utah show:
>>> Utah, collectively, votes “anyone but Trump”.
>>> (Things were not looking great for him but he really shot his own dick
>>> off on Friday).
>>>
>>> Polls now show, if Trump is the other candidate, he loses.
>>> No matter if it is Hillary, Bernie, Ted...
>>>
>>> Gotta love Utah!
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
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