First, I think electric is great for those it works for. It just won't work out here in west Texas. Second, if less pollution is the reason I guess the pollution of the battery pack isn't considered? I have to think that would be a pretty significant deal. I don't know how much but I have to dispose of LiIon batteries every day to some special center. No idea why but I guess lithium in Jaimie's whater isn't appreciated like it used to be. I would think that for places with heavy urban traffic and lots of traffic jams they would be ideal. NY, Chicago, DC, etc.
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:07 AM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > 30 minutes to recharge seems problematic for long distance trips. Need > battery swap. > > http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-owners-frustrated-by-recharge-waits-1435690694 > > And which type of vehicle is best in a post-apocalyptic world? I don’t > see electric vehicles in Mad Max movies (except for the guitar guy who > obviously has some form of electric power available). The best solution > would seem to be the Mr. Fusion powered DeLorean from Back to the Future. > We will never run out of garbage. > > > *From:* Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> > *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 9:41 AM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? > I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today, using a > combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can imagine the > outcry if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was to ship explosive > fuel all around the country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts > of pollution versus having charging stations everywhere. > > On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: > > I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the better > option in the early days (like 1890-1910). Then we found out Texas was > made out of oil and the economic argument went the other way. > > On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > > I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never been "on > time", but they make decent cars when they cost around $100 grand. When > they're "giving them away" for $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame. > > But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by day. In 18 > months or so, they may tip over to the point of working for a majority of > buyers. I can wait until then to see how it works out. > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > > It does now... > > but can it blend? > > On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: > > But does it have SFPs? >> >> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >> *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >> >> > Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may be mostly >> hydro. >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >> ------------------------------ >> > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >> >> Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy. >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> > On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" <ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote: >> > At a pretty cheaper cost too. >>> >> >>> Regards, >>> Chuck >>> >>> >> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>> >> You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a wall or charging station. >>>> No difference. Same actions, just different object. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM >>>> >>> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>> >>>> But you don’t. That is the point. I have a charger at home and at >>>> work and at my other work. 3-5 seconds. None if you have a passenger do >>>> it for you... >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>> >>>> >>> You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still have them >>>> all if you're not at a free charging location. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> >>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> >>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >>>> >>>> >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>> >>>> Time it. You will be surprised. 5 minutes. Gotta drive in, park, get >>>> out, gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel, wait >>>> for beep, put hose in, pull trigger. Wait a couple of minutes, reverse >>>> all of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise. >>>> >>>> From the moment you leave the street to being back on the street 5 >>>> minutes. >>>> >>>> And it costs you money! >>>> >>>> I charge with solar. >>>> >>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>> >>>> >>> We drive past gas stations every day. It's what, 2 minutes? >>>> >>>> If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need to >>>> charge. Your route also can't be the scenic one. >>>> >>>> It costs more than my current car which I have today and I doubt it >>>> comes close in terms of comfort. >>>> >>>> Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic. That's a >>>> nice upside! >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>> On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>> >>> Silent neck snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas up... >>>>> If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to plug in >>>>> once a week. >>>>> There is nothing but upside here. >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>>> >>>>> >>>> Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks than >>>>> what I spend at a gas station. Then I have to pay for power anyway... >>>>> >>>>> Not a fan of the front end duck bill. The rear has too much Prius. >>>>> Side looks great. Interior looked unfinished or space aged. >>>>> >>>>> 115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though? Woof. >>>>> >>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>> >>>> On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>> It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as you >>>>>> pass it. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> No interest really. Plugging in every time I get home? Yuck. I love >>>>>> the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really awesome, >>>>>> but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric. >>>>>> >>>>>> I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that >>>>>> won't be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>> >>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" mailto:simon@sonar.software >>>>>> <simon@sonar.software> <simon@sonar.software> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> One day! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Chuck >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Simon Westlake >>>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar >>>>>>> Email: simon@sonar.software >>>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <%28702%29%20447-1247> >>>>>>> --------------------------- >>>>>>> Sonar Software Inc >>>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS >>>>>>> https://sonar.software >>>>>>> >>>>>>> > -- > Simon Westlake > Skype: Simon_Sonar > Email: simon@sonar.software > Phone: (702) 447-1247 > --------------------------- > Sonar Software Inc > The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software > >
