Panels don't give you that much power. The Fisker tried that and the panel
couldn't power the basic stuff - radio, heater, instruments, etc on its own.
Supplementing the drive I think it would be an absolute no brainer choice,
there's a lot of energy in the sun.
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Cassidy B. Larson <c...@infowest.com> wrote:
> wonder if semi trailers could be built with solar panels on top.. and its
> own battery array it charges.
> Hook up multiple trailers you extend your battery array with each trailer.
> Why not use that view of the sky to charge up the rig pulling you.
> Given truckers drive at night, so this wouldnt work well, not to mention
> driving in non-sunny states :)
>
>
> On Apr 1, 2016, at 9:06 AM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software> wrote:
>
> Well, I guess we will have to agree to disagree since neither of us have a
> crystal ball into an alternate reality which doesn't exist. My personal
> feeling is that if there was a clean slate, and the collective engineering
> might of all the car manufacturers and all the companies devoted to
> transporting and refining oil were instead focused on developing electric
> vehicles and the means to power them, we would have a different reality.
>
> On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> Being able to transport an entire car load of people without having to
> wait an hour between charges would be science fiction in a world where
> everyone all had electric cars.
>
> Good or bad is generally subjective, but when you're paying someone to sit
> and watch the battery meter go to full I think economically it would
> certainly be good to have cheap fuel and go versus cheaper electric and
> wait.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Simon Westlake <simon@sonar.software>
> wrote:
>
>> Not sure if you're saying that's good or bad, I'm pretty sure the
>> infrastructure would be a solvable problem if it was a choice of that or
>> building an entire fuel supply infrastructure from scratch.
>>
>> On 4/1/2016 9:46 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> In that scenario...
>>
>> "Whoa you can go 500 miles and then recharge in 2 minutes to go another
>> 500 miles?! Over and over?!"
>>
>> Imagine if semi/cargo trucks were dependent on electric/charging. The
>> shipping industry would collapse.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Simon Westlake < <simon@sonar.software>
>> simon@sonar.software> wrote:
>>
>>> I would imagine that if we were designing cars from scratch today, using
>>> a combustion engine definitely wouldn't be the choice. I can imagine the
>>> outcry if the infrastructure plan for new vehicles was to ship explosive
>>> fuel all around the country, to power vehicles that will emit huge amounts
>>> of pollution versus having charging stations everywhere.
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2016 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>>>
>>> I read recently that in the US electric cars were considered the better
>>> option in the early days (like 1890-1910). Then we found out Texas was
>>> made out of oil and the economic argument went the other way.
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2016 9:54 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
>>>
>>> I honestly wouldn't get in line for one today. Tesla has never been "on
>>> time", but they make decent cars when they cost around $100 grand. When
>>> they're "giving them away" for $35,000, it may be a whole new ballgame.
>>>
>>> But the arguments for an electric car are getting better day by day. In
>>> 18 months or so, they may tip over to the point of working for a majority
>>> of buyers. I can wait until then to see how it works out.
>>>
>>> bp
>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/1/2016 6:50 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>>>
>>> It does now...
>>>
>>> but can it blend?
>>> On Apr 1, 2016 7:29 AM, "Ken Hohhof" < <af...@kwisp.com>af...@kwisp.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> But does it have SFPs?
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 01, 2016 7:17 AM
>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>> Coal? Mine is mostly nuclear. I'd imagine for others it may be mostly
>>>> hydro.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
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>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>> ------------------------------
>>>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" < <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:36:49 PM
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>
>>>> Coal and oil are kind of the same source for energy.
>>>>
>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>> Suite 1337
>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>> On Apr 1, 2016 12:33 AM, "Chuck Hogg" < <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>>> ch...@shelbybb.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> At a pretty cheaper cost too.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 1, 2016 at 12:30 AM, Mike Hammett < <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>> af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> You're just replacing a pump with a plug into a wall or charging
>>>>>> station. No difference. Same actions, just different object.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" < <ch...@wbmfg.com>ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:28:36 PM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But you don’t. That is the point. I have a charger at home and at
>>>>>> work and at my other work. 3-5 seconds. None if you have a passenger
>>>>>> do
>>>>>> it for you...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:25 PM
>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You still have most of those hassles with electric. You still have
>>>>>> them all if you're not at a free charging location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----
>>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
>>>>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
>>>>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
>>>>>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
>>>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
>>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>>> *From: *"Chuck McCown" < <ch...@wbmfg.com>ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>> *To: * <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Sent: *Thursday, March 31, 2016 11:17:50 PM
>>>>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Time it. You will be surprised. 5 minutes. Gotta drive in, park,
>>>>>> get out, gas cap off, swipe card, wait for authentication, select fuel,
>>>>>> wait for beep, put hose in, pull trigger. Wait a couple of minutes,
>>>>>> reverse all of the above, stand in rain, snow gas fumes, noise.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From the moment you leave the street to being back on the street 5
>>>>>> minutes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And it costs you money!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I charge with solar.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:13 PM
>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We drive past gas stations every day. It's what, 2 minutes?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you travel >200 miles your time table is screwed as you need to
>>>>>> charge. Your route also can't be the scenic one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It costs more than my current car which I have today and I doubt it
>>>>>> comes close in terms of comfort.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh and the auto pilot doesn't try to hit oncoming traffic. That's a
>>>>>> nice upside!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> On Apr 1, 2016 12:03 AM, "Chuck McCown" < <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Silent neck snapping acceleration and never stopping to gas up...
>>>>>>> If your daily trips are fairly short, you would only have to plug in
>>>>>>> once a week.
>>>>>>> There is nothing but upside here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 10:00 PM
>>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks
>>>>>>> than what I spend at a gas station. Then I have to pay for power
>>>>>>> anyway...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not a fan of the front end duck bill. The rear has too much Prius.
>>>>>>> Side looks great. Interior looked unfinished or space aged.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though?
>>>>>>> Woof.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown" < <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>>>>> ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as
>>>>>>>> you pass it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
>>>>>>>> *To:* <af@afmug.com>af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No interest really. Plugging in every time I get home? Yuck. I
>>>>>>>> love the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really
>>>>>>>> awesome, but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that
>>>>>>>> won't be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>>>> On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake" <simon@sonar.software>
>>>>>>>> <simon@sonar.software> <simon@sonar.software> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> One day!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Chuck
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Simon Westlake
>>>>>>>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>>>>>>>> Email: <simon@sonar.software>simon@sonar.software
>>>>>>>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
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>>>>>>>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>>>>>>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
>>>>>>>>> <https://sonar.software/>https://sonar.software
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
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>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>>> ---------------------------
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> Simon Westlake
>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>> Phone: (702) 447-1247
>> ---------------------------
>> Sonar Software Inc
>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSShttps://sonar.software
>>
>>
>
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> Skype: Simon_Sonar
> Email: simon@sonar.software
> Phone: (702) 447-1247
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