My wife always complains that I don't need more tools I respond... when you stop buying shoes, I will stop buying tools...she gives me the death stare. On Apr 4, 2016 1:44 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" <fai...@snappytelecom.net> wrote:
> Chuck, somehow you remind me of my business partner.... who goes looking > for projects, cause they are a perfect opportunity to collect (buy) more > tools... one can never have enough tools ! > > (He is more into power tools, construction, mechanical etc ...) > > :) > > Faisal Imtiaz > Snappy Internet & Telecom > 7266 SW 48 Street > Miami, FL 33155 > Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 > > Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> > *To: *af@afmug.com > *Sent: *Monday, April 4, 2016 3:36:59 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > > I just tested a cable tester from Ideal that qualifies GigE circuits. > > Nice thing is, it will do a data test without cable continuity. > (It also does the actual cable continuity tests too). > > I wonder what it would show on a less than 1Gbps radio. $1325 > > *From:* Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 1:32 PM > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? > > Sorry to be late to the party. ;-) > > I have a few comments on iperf though. Iperf2 is not very reliable at > high speeds. For high speeds, iperf3 tends to do a little better assuming > you have enough computer to push the required speeds. However iperf3 > cannot yet do bi-di tests. > > For affordable testing, we've found Mikrotik's traffic generator to be > pretty good. It's a little complicated to setup the first time but then it > is better. Beware using btest - it uses a single core and can't keep up > especially if you try random data. > > Then there's RFC testers like Exfo, Smartbits, etc. We use Smartbits. > > Thanks, > -Hal > > On Mon, Apr 4, 2016 at 9:15 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote: > >> Every new gear is suspicious in regards of holding up to the promises >> made. >> >> >> >> We’ve heard so many promises in the past and very often the truth does >> not meet marketing. >> >> >> >> So there is nothing aggressive if someone wants to see iperf testing. >> Seeing is believing. >> >> >> >> >> >> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Ken Hohhof >> *Gesendet:* Montag, 4. April 2016 15:08 >> *An:* af@afmug.com >> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> >> >> By comparison to the presidential contest, the tone was very mild! Did >> you see Jimmy Kimmel’s American Girl & Boy Dolls Presidential Collection? >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=FYHPr7TL2AY >> >> >> >> *From:* Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> >> *Sent:* Monday, April 04, 2016 8:03 AM >> >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> >> >> I am not being defensive about Ignite, as I stated in my email.... I am >> having a reaction to the tone of your question. If you were to look at my >> posts you will also see that I have expressed similar feelings to others in >> regards to how they ask the question... irrespective of who they are asking >> about. I also apologized for this being a personality defect in myself. >> >> >> >> The Cut & Paste was not for your benefit, but for others who lurk in the >> forums. >> >> >> >> There is nothing wrong with running an iperf test.. but you specifically >> asked for the test to be run in a very particular way, from very particular >> pieces of equipment..... >> >> >> >> My apologies if I am over reacting.... WISP's have many many great >> attributes, however there is one attribute which would be nice to change >> for the better.... Our Attitudes towards the mfg. and the default >> presumption of a 'conspiracy' or 'they are trying to pull a fast one on >> us'..... along with it also having enough fortitude to asking the MFG and >> or their representatives the technical questions before coming to the open >> forums and taking an opinion poll.... >> >> >> >> ok, I will now get off my soap box. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:52:00 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> For somebody who doesn't own a piece of the company and doesn't work >> there, you're extremely defensive. I don't need a copied and pasted >> explanation of what FDD and TDD are. >> >> How in any way whatsoever is it inappropriate to run iperf tests on a >> newly released PTP bridge radio? >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >> like I said before.. ask the question directly... no need for the cloak >> and dagger ... >> >> >> >> ----------- >> >> Frequency-division duplexing (FDD) is a method for establishing a >> full-duplex communications link that uses two different radio frequencies >> for transmitter and receiver operation. The transmit direction and receive >> direction frequencies are separated by a defined frequency offset. In the >> microwave realm, the primary advantages of this approach are: >> >> ----------------- >> >> NO THEY ARE NOT FDD. >> >> >> >> ------------ >> >> Time-division duplexing (TDD) is a method for emulating full-duplex >> communication over a half-duplex communication link. The transmitter and >> receiver both use the same frequency but transmit and receive traffic is >> switched in time. The primary advantages of this approach as it applies to >> microwave communication are: >> >> ------------------ >> >> YES They are TDD. ( The notation of 1gig aggregate should have give this >> away ! ) >> >> >> >> Like all new products, they are making improvements with firmware >> updates. The published specs are 'conservative'. >> >> >> >> These are the first radios of their kind in the market place... I think >> you will need to modify your thinking about them, cause you keep comparing >> them to the other existing (much more expensive) radios in the market place. >> >> >> >> Anything else you would like to know ? >> >> >> >> Feel free to ask...... >> >> >> >> BTW, FWIW, I don't work for Ignite, nor do I own a piece of the company >> (would love to buy stock in them if I could). I am on the beta testers of >> the product... There is something about the tone of your question that is >> rubbing me the wrong way, my apologies if I am over reacting...... I >> normally expect the proper professional decorum to be.. ask the question >> directly, and only if that is not answered or if the answer is not straight >> forward then it is ok to imply some intentional obfuscation..... not the >> other way around ! >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 11:14:08 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> I'm not trying to prove or disprove anything, just to compare them with >> existing line rate 60 GHz FDD solutions. >> >> The datasheet says 1Gbps aggregate throughput but nowhere does it say >> specifically if they're FDD or TDD in the 60 GHz band: >> >> >> http://www.ignitenet.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/IgniteNet_MetroLinq.pdf >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 3, 2016 at 8:01 PM, Faisal Imtiaz <fai...@snappytelecom.net> >> wrote: >> >> What exactly are you looking to prove of dis-prove with such a test ? >> >> >> >> Iperf is iperf, what difference does it make how it is run.... >> >> >> >> Are you asking the question 'How much data I can push thru with these >> radios ?'..... the question has been answered multiple times... >> >> the radios are (as per specs, 1gig half duplex, thus giving you 500meg x >> 500meg performance.) >> >> >> >> The Radio side is using 2ghz wide channel, and the latest firmware is >> showing 700meg x 700meg performance.... >> >> >> >> What is the problem with this ? if you think Ignite is lying about the >> specs, buy a pair, do the testing you like, with pink, blue, or purple >> laptop of your choice and if you don't like them, send them back !... or >> someone will be happy to buy them from you ... they are in short supply as >> it is .... >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Sunday, April 3, 2016 10:03:39 PM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] IniteNet 60 GHz radio iperf tests? >> >> Anyone done a simultaneous bidirectional iperf test yet? Preferably with >> something like a Thinkpad (Intel 1000BaseT NIC) running Linux plugged into >> each end. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >