My theory is that you have to have filed a tax return. It's the legal obligation of all adult US citizens.
Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Apr 7, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Lewis Bergman <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Jaime, you say that like it happened yesterday. Do you think that Texas, and > by that I guess those sitting in power today, are actively trying to dissuade > minority voting? Other than what falls under gerrymandering like everyone > else has already mentioned. > > Having said that, I wish it was legal to prevent those who don't pay taxes > from voting. Not sure anything would be different but I think if you are > going to help decide how the money gets spent you should have to contribute > some of it. > > OK. Start the all caps yelliing. > >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:59 AM Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> Texas has a track record of keeping African Americans and Mexican Americans >> from voting and getting equal access to education. They used all kinds of >> tactics including taxes to do it. I tried telling the students at Tornillo >> High School to study what Chicano students did in California to fight for >> better education. We did same in El Paso....told them to register and >> vote...Trump has gotten allot of Hispanics to go vote! Guess he did >> something right....ha >> >> On Apr 7, 2016 10:34 AM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >> Opponents think it's to keep "Mexicans" from voting because we're all racist. >> >> Voting is little different with the second Amendment and they're just fine >> with that. >> >> >> >> >> ----- >> Mike Hammett >> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> >> Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 11:32:17 AM >> >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to >> Mexico - WSJ >> >> While I'm not familiar with Texas' requirements, a quick google tells me >> they require one of the following: >> Texas driver license issued by the Texas Department of Public Safety (DPS) >> Texas Election Identification Certificate issued by DPS >> Texas personal identification card issued by DPS >> Texas license to carry a handgun issued by DPS >> United States military identification card containing the person’s photograph >> United States citizenship certificate containing the person’s photograph >> United States passport >> Those are all government issued forms of photo ID... I don't really see >> anything inconsistent there. >> >> here in Wisconsin, at least some student ID's are acceptable... and there is >> a process for obtaining an ID card completely free if you can't pay for the >> necessary documentation. But as far as requiring a birth certificate to get >> an ID, how else do you go about proving that you're actually citizen? I >> really don't see anything unfair about requiring someone to prove they're a >> citizen to be eligible to vote. >> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us> wrote: >>> The 42 member "freedom caucus" in the house only exists because of >>> gerrymandering. They are in districts that are so skewed that only a super >>> conservative "republican" could ever win. >>> >>> As for voter ID there is tons of evidence that absentee ballots have a lot >>> of voter fraud but in person voting the fraud is less than .01%. All the >>> voter ID laws are designed to suppress in person voting with an illegal >>> "poll tax". Oh sure the ID might be "free" but the birth certificate you >>> need to produce costs money. Also in texas you can use your hunting or >>> fishing license but you can't use a student ID...even if the student ID was >>> issued by a state school. >>> >>> Tell me exactly how those two things in this country are 1. Fair 2. Make >>> America great?!?! >>> >>> -Sean >>> >>> >>>> On Thursday, April 7, 2016, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: >>>> "conservative minority" HAH! >>>> >>>> Most people are in the middle and couldn't give a shit less, while indeed >>>> a minority fight for or against most things. >>>> >>>> "Progressive liberals" often forget the difference between legal and >>>> illegal immigration. >>>> >>>> If the "conservative minority" is gerrymandering districts in Illinois, >>>> they sure aren't very good at it. Both parties gerrymander and it sucks. >>>> >>>> You need an ID to do almost everything else in your life, why should the >>>> most important thing be any different? >>>> >>>> BTW: I'd like to welcome unchecked emotion to a mostly logical >>>> conversation. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange >>>> >>>> The Brothers WISP >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> From: "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> >>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>> Sent: Thursday, April 7, 2016 1:16:11 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers >>>> to Mexico - WSJ >>>> >>>> "The Wall" is a stupid, ignorant and an expensive attempt to solve a >>>> non-issue...PERIOD! >>>> >>>> My great grandfather was an immigrant from Italy...when no one liked >>>> Italians. Italy was poor and invading north africa his motivation was >>>> the same as all the South Americans coming here now (I say South Americans >>>> because most of the illegal immigrants are forms Countries south of >>>> Mexico) He forbade my grandmother from learning Italian because at that >>>> time the Italians were looked down upon (early 1900's) >>>> >>>> Totally shameful that everyone has the "close the gate behind me" >>>> mentality. America (not 'merica) is built on immigrants. Those who have >>>> no compassion for the Syrians fleeing oppression or the South Americans >>>> migrating north for a better life are just plain stupid in my opinion. >>>> >>>> As a progressive liberal - yeah I said it and I'm fucking proud of being a >>>> progressive liberal - im so sick and tired of the agenda of this country >>>> being driven by this damn conservative minority who would rather see their >>>> neighbor fail. And yes it is a conservative minority because they have to >>>> gerrymander districts and enact "voter ID" laws in order to win. Social >>>> security and Medicare/Medicade are vital to our well being and prevent the >>>> old, sick and poor from dying on the streets. >>>> >>>> I could go on and on but #fucktrump and #fuckcruze their policies and >>>> rhetoric have no place in a "civilized" society. >>>> >>>> What the happened to "love thy neighbor"?!?!? Seriously WTF? >>>> >>>> I can't wait to see the republican convention contort itself into a >>>> million pieces...you reap what you sow. >>>> >>>> America is already fucking great! >>>> >>>> Sorry for all the cursing but it really chaps my hide to see American >>>> politicians act this poorly. >>>> >>>> 2 cents >>>> >>>> -Sean >>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, April 6, 2016, Paul McCall <pa...@pdmnet.net> wrote: >>>>> Guys, I am not a Trump fan boy, so let’s make this disclaimer up front. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> However, there is a LOT of street smarts in this guy. The negotiation >>>>> is just that… a negotiation. IF he gets in, and starts this process and >>>>> is bound and determined to make it happen, extremities can be discussed >>>>> (or thrown out there as shots across the bow), and then adjustments get >>>>> made. The point of a wall WILL be built, coming from him, gets it >>>>> started, and having Mexico start to feel the pinch (in whatever way that >>>>> takes) will get people’s attention. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Is “the wall” THE answer to immigration challenges? Of course not. Is >>>>> it helpful and one part of the total solution needed? absolutely. >>>>> There IS NO border with the U.S. right now. What is there is a façade. >>>>> Trump is crude and I wish he would tone down the rhetoric a bit (for >>>>> everybody’s benefit, including himself), but this country needs action in >>>>> so, so many areas and nobody seems to have the gonads to do anything that >>>>> isn’t buried in PC or politics or corruption or power or all of the above. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I acknowledge that I may be naïve or optimistic on the subject. But, I >>>>> still believe in America and its strength and there is been absolutely >>>>> nothing done in recent time to maintain or increase its strength… only >>>>> further dilution and division and flailing discourse at an unprecedented >>>>> level historically. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Not a Trump fan, but “let’s have some balls and fix our country fan” >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza >>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2016 7:10 PM >>>>> To: Animal Farm >>>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Donald Trump Says He Might Block Money Transfers to >>>>> Mexico - WSJ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> What a fucking idiot idea....from a fucking idiot.... did I say fucking >>>>> idiot..oh yes I did >>>>> >>>>> http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-says-he-might-block-money-transfers-to-mexico-1459892237
