Micro POPs, urban deployments, etc. I'm assuming once you leave the horn design they're using, you no longer have that clean pattern, which then defeats the purpose.
----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> To: "af" <af@afmug.com> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:55:37 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP Right, but most of the time I don't care about, or even want a 90 degree vertical beam. I can definitely see a lot of potential for 50 degree and under horns, but I just can't see a lot of practical uses for the 90 with such low gain. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to coverage area. A sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from 4 degrees to 90 degrees will have a very detrimental effect on gain. That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended area is non-existent, meaning much lower noise. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Josh Reynolds" < j...@kyneticwifi.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:32:11 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP They're great for 802.11ac style micropops Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean beamwidth / edges. On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: > It's another option anyway =) > > I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A 90* is only > 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi. Or the 50* at 14dbi. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy < jeremysmi...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized AP" part. Also, >> these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth. >> >> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy < jeremysmi...@gmail.com > wrote: >>> >>> AM-M-V5G-TI >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini < ginovi...@gmail.com > >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> ebay is your friend >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini < ginovi...@gmail.com > >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> blessed that you can use 40 mhz... >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett < dmmoff...@gmail.com > >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Those only have 100mbps ethernet, correct? On a 40mhz channel they >>>>>> can do 180mbps+ aggregate which is why I've been using the Force110 for >>>>>> the >>>>>> little sites. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 4/15/2016 11:04 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> If you dont need gps syc, just do a Epmp 1000 integrated... >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman >>>>>> < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Force 180. It's more gain, very narrow azimuth (great for a CPE). >>>>>>> It's the same thing turned 90*. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brian Sullivan >>>>>>> < installe...@foxvalley.net > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I guess I fell asleep at the ePMP wheel, why would they EOL these? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:30 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> We bought a bunch of integrated 5GHz radios and keep them in a safe >>>>>>>>> place for this very reason. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small AP antenna? Previously >>>>>>>>>> with Ubnt we would do an NSM5. This would give us 45*. The use case >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> just to service a few homes around the corner from the trees. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The original integrated radios are 30* but they're EOLed >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
