People seem to forget that gain is inversely proportional to coverage area. A 
sector that moves the vertical beamwidth from 4 degrees to 90 degrees will have 
a very detrimental effect on gain. 

That said, the lack of gain everywhere outside of the intended area is 
non-existent, meaning much lower noise. 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 11:32:11 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Small ePMP AP 

They're great for 802.11ac style micropops 

Good vertical coverage though, much better than a sector. Clean 
beamwidth / edges. 

On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, Josh Luthman 
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: 
> It's another option anyway =) 
> 
> I'm kind of liking the horn antenna, but the gain is low. A 90* is only 
> 10dbi but a 40* is 16dbi. Or the 50* at 14dbi. 
> 
> 
> Josh Luthman 
> Office: 937-552-2340 
> Direct: 937-552-2343 
> 1100 Wayne St 
> Suite 1337 
> Troy, OH 45373 
> 
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 12:23 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> 
>> Nevermind, I missed the "short of buying a connectorized AP" part. Also, 
>> these are small in physical size, but not so much in beamwidth. 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:18 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> 
>>> AM-M-V5G-TI 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> 
>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> ebay is your friend 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>> blessed that you can use 40 mhz... 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 11:09 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Those only have 100mbps ethernet, correct? On a 40mhz channel they 
>>>>>> can do 180mbps+ aggregate which is why I've been using the Force110 for 
>>>>>> the 
>>>>>> little sites. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 4/15/2016 11:04 AM, Gino Villarini wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> If you dont need gps syc, just do a Epmp 1000 integrated... 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
>>>>>> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Force 180. It's more gain, very narrow azimuth (great for a CPE). 
>>>>>>> It's the same thing turned 90*. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Josh Luthman 
>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St 
>>>>>>> Suite 1337 
>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Brian Sullivan 
>>>>>>> <installe...@foxvalley.net> wrote: 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I guess I fell asleep at the ePMP wheel, why would they EOL these? 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:30 PM, George Skorup wrote: 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> We bought a bunch of integrated 5GHz radios and keep them in a safe 
>>>>>>>>> place for this very reason. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 4/14/2016 5:28 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have a suggestion for a small AP antenna? Previously 
>>>>>>>>>> with Ubnt we would do an NSM5. This would give us 45*. The use case 
>>>>>>>>>> is 
>>>>>>>>>> just to service a few homes around the corner from the trees. 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The original integrated radios are 30* but they're EOLed 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
> 

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