Right, but does a BTS that does it cost significantly different than one that doesn't? It offers 2x the capacity. Is it 2x the price? 1.2x? 4x?
Same on the UE side. I know that they're all migrating that way for cellular use, but we often get things a bit different (and likely rightfully so), so it may or may not exactly translate. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 9:06:38 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs is just license cost on the bts Sent from Outlook Mobile On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 6:58 AM -0700, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: I wonder how it affects cost having one, two or three 20 MHz channels vs. twice as many 10 MHz channels. Sprint is deploying gear with 2x 20 MHz aggregation and will be doing 3x 20 MHz "soon". ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gino Villarini" <ginovi...@gmail.com> To: af@afmug.com, af@afmug.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2016 8:52:47 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs lte has carrier aggregation you know... Sent from Outlook Mobile On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:17 AM -0700, "Mark Radabaugh" < m...@amplex.net > wrote: <blockquote> Initial trials for SAS/CBSD are being proposed this summer - I believe around KC. Mark Radabaugh WISPA FCC Chairman fcc-ch...@wispa.org <blockquote> On Apr 15, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds < j...@kyneticwifi.com > wrote: The SAS doesn't even exist yet, right? Seems like the FCC got paralyzed for awhile by Carrier desire to use 3.65 for LTE-U On Apr 15, 2016 8:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: <blockquote> OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses. So if you had 2 PALs in the same area, or were using GAA, could you request and receive a 20 MHz contiguous allocation from the SAS? I guess maybe, although I would be very surprised. And if you got lucky and the SAS assigned you 2 x 10 MHz adjacent channels, I think that could change at any time. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:16 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs Have we actually heard anything official on 10 MHz vs. more or is that just a WAG based on 10 MHz licenses? I would assume the SAS would support larger channels. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:10:45 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs Are you talking licensed spectrum, or 3.65 GHz? Going forward, I don't think we should plan on 20 MHz channels in 3550-3700 MHz, even now under Part 90 rules it is somewhat unrealistic. If you are talking about aggregating non contiguous 10 MHz channels, that's different. -----Original Message----- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:05 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs Are we talking about LTE or Wimax? Of the 4 Wimax systems I've used, the Compact is probably the worst. I'm assured that all of my problems are fixed when we upgrade to LTE. I'm not sure I trust the opinions on LTE. People are very focused on the NLOS performance, and they are still experiencing the "wow" factor of getting a connection working in a weird place that seems like it shouldn't work. I haven't seen much conversation about whether the connection you get is something supportable. Wimax always had the problem that if the customer tells you something is wrong you have a hard time proving whether there is or isn't a problem without going on site. I don't know if LTE on the compact really changes that situation. I do know the Gemtek CPE still has no damn ethernet stats. In LTE the AP can use a 20mhz channel at 64QAM and get close to a hundred meg aggregate on that. You can pay a license fee for dual carrier mode and use 2 x 20mhz channels to double that. With MU-MIMO at some future date they expect to double that. So best case is 400meg (I believe). Since using 40mhz might not be practical, divide that by what you can actually use. They do have a capacity planning spreadsheet if you can get in touch with someone who has it. On 4/13/2016 1:08 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: > > Sorry for the on topic content. > > Would those of you here who have played enough with the telrad gear please > explain to me the realities of things like capacity per ap/channel/mhz, > distance capability (ie link budget), and the like? Ie what should really > be on a spec sheet. > > I'm still trying to dig through the marketing spin to understand the real > capabilities of these units. > </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote>
