lte has carrier aggregation you know...

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On Sat, Apr 16, 2016 at 5:17 AM -0700, "Mark Radabaugh" <m...@amplex.net> wrote:










Initial trials for SAS/CBSD are being proposed this summer - I believe around 
KC.


Mark RadabaughWISPA FCC chairmanfcc-ch...@wispa.org








On Apr 15, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:


The SAS doesn't even exist yet, right? Seems like the FCC got paralyzed for 
awhile by Carrier desire to use 3.65 for LTE-U
On Apr 15, 2016 8:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:






OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very 
specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses.
 
So if you had 2 PALs in the same area, or were using GAA, could you request 
and receive a 20 MHz contiguous allocation from the SAS?  I guess maybe, 
although I would be very surprised.  And if you got lucky and the SAS 
assigned you 2 x 10 MHz adjacent channels, I think that could change at any 
time.
 


 

From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:16 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
 

Have 
we actually heard anything official on 10 MHz vs. more or is that just a WAG 
based on 10 MHz licenses? I would assume the SAS would support larger 
channels.




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Mike 
Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions

Midwest Internet Exchange

The Brothers WISP







From: 
"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 
Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad 
specs

Are you talking licensed spectrum, or 3.65 GHz?

Going 
forward, I don't think we should plan on 20 MHz channels in 3550-3700 
MHz, 
even now under Part 90 rules it is somewhat unrealistic.  If you are 

talking about aggregating non contiguous 10 MHz channels, that's 
different.


-----Original Message----- 
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: 
Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 
Telrad specs

Are we talking about LTE or Wimax?

Of the 4 Wimax 
systems I've used, the Compact is probably the worst.
I'm assured that all of 
my problems are fixed when we upgrade to LTE.

I'm not sure I trust the 
opinions on LTE.  People are very focused on
the NLOS performance, and 
they are still experiencing the "wow" factor
of getting a connection working 
in a weird place that seems like it
shouldn't work.  I haven't seen much 
conversation about whether the
connection you get is something 
supportable.  Wimax always had the
problem that if the customer tells 
you something is wrong you have a
hard time proving whether there is or isn't 
a problem without going on
site.  I don't know if LTE on the compact 
really changes that
situation.  I do know the Gemtek CPE still has no 
damn ethernet stats.

In LTE the AP can use a 20mhz channel at 64QAM and 
get close to a
hundred meg aggregate on that.  You can pay a license fee 
for dual
carrier mode and use 2 x 20mhz channels to double that.  With 
MU-MIMO at
some future date they expect to double that.  So best case is 
400meg (I
believe).  Since using 40mhz might not be practical, divide 
that by what
you can actually use.

They do have a capacity planning 
spreadsheet if you can get in touch
with someone who has 
it.



On 4/13/2016 1:08 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) 
wrote:
>
> Sorry for the on topic content.
>
> Would 
those of you here who have played enough with the telrad gear please 
> 
explain to me the realities of things like capacity per ap/channel/mhz, 
> 
distance capability (ie link budget), and the like?  Ie what should really 

> be on a spec sheet.
>
> I'm still trying to dig through the 
marketing spin to understand the real 
> capabilities of these 
units.
>



 







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