Initial trials for SAS/CBSD are being proposed this summer - I believe around 
KC.


Mark Radabaugh
WISPA FCC Chairman
fcc-ch...@wispa.org





> On Apr 15, 2016, at 9:46 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
> 
> The SAS doesn't even exist yet, right? Seems like the FCC got paralyzed for 
> awhile by Carrier desire to use 3.65 for LTE-U
> 
> On Apr 15, 2016 8:43 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com 
> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
> OK, fair warning, I am going by memory, but I thought the FCC was very 
> specific that PALs would be 10 MHz licenses.
>  
> So if you had 2 PALs in the same area, or were using GAA, could you request 
> and receive a 20 MHz contiguous allocation from the SAS?  I guess maybe, 
> although I would be very surprised.  And if you got lucky and the SAS 
> assigned you 2 x 10 MHz adjacent channels, I think that could change at any 
> time.
>  
>  
> From: Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 8:16 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
>  
> Have we actually heard anything official on 10 MHz vs. more or is that just a 
> WAG based on 10 MHz licenses? I would assume the SAS would support larger 
> channels.
> 
> 
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> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
> 
> Are you talking licensed spectrum, or 3.65 GHz?
> 
> Going forward, I don't think we should plan on 20 MHz channels in 3550-3700 
> MHz, even now under Part 90 rules it is somewhat unrealistic.  If you are 
> talking about aggregating non contiguous 10 MHz channels, that's different.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Adam Moffett
> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 11:05 AM
> To: af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Telrad specs
> 
> Are we talking about LTE or Wimax?
> 
> Of the 4 Wimax systems I've used, the Compact is probably the worst.
> I'm assured that all of my problems are fixed when we upgrade to LTE.
> 
> I'm not sure I trust the opinions on LTE.  People are very focused on
> the NLOS performance, and they are still experiencing the "wow" factor
> of getting a connection working in a weird place that seems like it
> shouldn't work.  I haven't seen much conversation about whether the
> connection you get is something supportable.  Wimax always had the
> problem that if the customer tells you something is wrong you have a
> hard time proving whether there is or isn't a problem without going on
> site.  I don't know if LTE on the compact really changes that
> situation.  I do know the Gemtek CPE still has no damn ethernet stats.
> 
> In LTE the AP can use a 20mhz channel at 64QAM and get close to a
> hundred meg aggregate on that.  You can pay a license fee for dual
> carrier mode and use 2 x 20mhz channels to double that.  With MU-MIMO at
> some future date they expect to double that.  So best case is 400meg (I
> believe).  Since using 40mhz might not be practical, divide that by what
> you can actually use.
> 
> They do have a capacity planning spreadsheet if you can get in touch
> with someone who has it.
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/13/2016 1:08 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote:
> >
> > Sorry for the on topic content.
> >
> > Would those of you here who have played enough with the telrad gear please 
> > explain to me the realities of things like capacity per ap/channel/mhz, 
> > distance capability (ie link budget), and the like?  Ie what should really 
> > be on a spec sheet.
> >
> > I'm still trying to dig through the marketing spin to understand the real 
> > capabilities of these units.
> >
> 
> 
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