The 450i needs either a syncbox 12 or a syncinjector. They need to be revision I0 or later. On Apr 28, 2016 11:53 AM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:
> Now for the 450i, didn't Forrest say something about them not liking the > sync from his SyncPipe? > > On 4/28/2016 12:01 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > They only do timing, not ethernet. You run dedicated timing cables from > the AP to the SyncBox, and then Cat5 from the AP to the Netonix switch for > power+data. > > On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Scott Vander Dussen <sc...@velociter.net > > wrote: > >> I considered those but they're not gigabit, correct? >> >> Thanks, >> `S >> >> --- >> Sent mobile, typed by thumbs. >> >> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:39, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Oh, yeah, that was you! That makes sense. We are looking at using >> SyncBox 12's at the top just for timing FSK (and 450 too I guess). This >> allows us to run 48V up the tower which we use to power WS-12-250-DC's. >> The FSK/450 gets timing port sync from the SyncBox and 24V power from the >> WS-12-250-DC. No need for separate SyncInjectors or DC-DC converters in >> this scenario. Just an idea. >> >> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Scott Vander Dussen < >> sc...@velociter.net> wrote: >> >>> I'm the guy who just smoked a ring of FSK APs by running 48v to them! :) >>> I wanted to use 48v for the reasons you just stated but because much of >>> the Cambium equipment is only 24v this meant having a DC DC converter in >>> the enclosure which is another point of failure, expensive, and impractical >>> to step down large wattages. I understand the same point of failure is in >>> the WS but it's integrated and hidden so I pretend it's not there. :) >>> >>> With the 12awg SOOW we use even on a 600' run there is less than 3% >>> voltage drop. The WS can take as little as 9VDC. The rectifier can easily >>> be tuned up to 27v to offset any drop. Also we gut the AC DC supplies in >>> the 1016 Mikrotik and run it direct DC since it takes 24vdc. Everything is >>> fully DC, finally! >>> >>> I'll reply with ICT price when I'm back in the office. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> 'S >>> >>> Sent mobile! >>> >>> On Apr 28, 2016, at 09:15, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Interesting that you are using 24V and not 48V especially since you are >>> running DC up the tower where voltage drop may be a concern. I realize the >>> WS-12-250-DC's will automatically up-convert to whatever, but they are more >>> efficient if you feed them a higher voltage (~48V). If you already have 4 >>> batteries at the base, what is keeping you from using a 48VDC rectifier? >>> >>> Would you mind sharing the approximate cost of that ICT? Off-list is >>> fine if you would like. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Josh >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Scott Vander Dussen < >>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks! The base of the tower is quite simple: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Kendall Howard 12U 19" Wall Mount Rack http://goo.gl/pbpnbk >>>> >>>> ICT1200-24SBC 24v rectifier (also a 600W version available) >>>> http://goo.gl/GkOBBW >>>> >>>> 12v 45ah TR45-12 Tempest AGM Batteries (4x in parallel and series to >>>> make 24v) http://goo.gl/rCXciW >>>> >>>> 3U 19" Inch Rack Mount Shelf For Pro Audio and Computer Networking >>>> http://goo.gl/SJQ6DP >>>> >>>> MikroTik CCR1016-12S-1S+ http://goo.gl/h5N4RQ >>>> >>>> 6 Port Rack Mount Fiber Enclosure Pre-Loaded with SC SM Connectors >>>> http://goo.gl/8x5fcg >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The 4x batteries fit on the 3U tray and take up just under 4U of total >>>> height. There is enough room in the 12U rack for up to 2 of these 4U >>>> battery trays. The MikroTik is all SFP ports because we run fiber to >>>> everything, with the exception of one copper eth cable to the rectifier for >>>> battery management and monitoring. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Incidentally the Mimosa B11 backhauls will accept the BiDi SFP >>>> transceivers linked on the SMM Details.PDF parts list, provided they are HP >>>> compatibility. So we use the switch to power the B11s and then it’s fiber >>>> goes directly into the fiber patch panel (fiber run in liquidtight from >>>> enclosure). The CCR1016 then has all the backhauls directly connected via >>>> fiber, and the APs are grouped 8 APs per switch (per fiber) so for every 8 >>>> APs there’s a full gig to the router. (You could have 12 APs per switch if >>>> you added 6 SyncInjectors total). The enclosures are standardized so we >>>> are building to have hot spares on standby ready to go in the event of a >>>> catastrophic failure. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I was asked offline about what DC/fiber we’re using: >>>> >>>> 1000’ 12/4 SOOW SO 600V Power Cord http://goo.gl/mKVXG1 >>>> >>>> Armored outdoor OS2 singlemode 9/125 6-strand fiber, Male SC UPC >>>> Simplex to Male SC UPC Simplex, http://www.best-tronics.com/fiber.htm >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> `S >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Baird >>>> *Sent:* Thursday, April 28, 2016 04:32 >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] CMM for 2016 What's in the box? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This looks nice. Good job. What all do you have at the bottom? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 8:54 PM, Scott Vander Dussen < >>>> sc...@velociter.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> I built a CMM for 2016! >>>> >>>> Highlights: >>>> >>>> * Gigabit everything >>>> >>>> * BiDi fiber support for 6 devices >>>> >>>> * Sync/Power up to 24 devices >>>> >>>> * Power 24v and 48v devices >>>> >>>> * Temperature monitoring >>>> >>>> * Fan ventilation controlled by rain/condensation sensor >>>> >>>> * Fan seizure notification >>>> >>>> * LED light strip controlled by door >>>> >>>> * Door alarm trigger >>>> >>>> * Hoist pull loop >>>> >>>> * 20" x 18" x 10" >>>> >>>> * 36lbs >>>> >>>> * Price circa $2100 >>>> >>>> Photo here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM.jpg >>>> Parts list here: >>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6582330/WebJunk/SMM%20Details.pdf >>>> >>>> Any suggestions to make this more awesome? >>>> >>>> [http://www.flutecrate.com/uploads/1/0/2/0/10200817/5243300_orig.jpg] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >
