Like, if I'm dumb enough to announce 8.0.0.0/8 and I'm singlehomed to an upstream provider that is also dumb enough to accept it, suddenly a lot of other BGP-speaking things that are nearby will see that the shortest route to 8/8 as being via my pipe. Cue the self inflicted DDoS.
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:51 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > Like they are the default route for ALL OF THE THINGS? :) > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > > Remember back in the early days of the net when mis-configured routers > would > > sometimes announce themselves to the world, for everything? > > > > From: Eric Kuhnke > > Sent: Wednesday, May 04, 2016 3:44 PM > > To: af@afmug.com > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Gino, can you get this? :) > > > > My favorite of all time is when Pakistan's PTCL (an entity functionally > > equivalent to Centurylink or Verizon, they're the LEC) decided to > announce > > Youtube's ipv4 prefixes... Not only did they mess things up for everyone > but > > they also DDoSed themselves at their international transport capacity in > and > > out of Karachi via submarine routes. > > > > > http://www.cnet.com/news/youtube-blames-pakistan-network-for-2-hour-outage/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:37 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > wrote: > >> > >> Well, there is a lot of single homed stuff out there for sure. > >> > >> It doesn't get much better the higher up you go in the OSI model > >> though. There's also a lot of incompetent operators out there as well. > >> > >> > http://www.bgpmon.net/large-hijack-affects-reachability-of-high-traffic-destinations/ > >> https://twitter.com/bgpstream?lang=en > >> > >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:33 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > It's not, really, it's the fragility of layers 1 and 2... all the BGP > >> > sessions in the world and diverse upstreams won't help you if you're > not > >> > diverse and suffer backhoe fade, tornado, raccoon chew, drunk guy in a > >> > semi > >> > truck taking out an entire utility pole, 40 pound chunk of ice falling > >> > on a > >> > dish+radio, etc etc > >> > > >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > >> > wrote: > >> >> > >> >> ... or how fragile BGP is :) > >> >> > >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:29 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > If the average person knew to what extent the internet is held > >> >> > together > >> >> > with > >> >> > duct tape and twine, they'd be scared. Splice canisters for > backbone > >> >> > lines > >> >> > carrying 40-channel WDM systems going through handholes that are > >> >> > also a > >> >> > residence of a family of angry raccoons. > >> >> > > >> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Josh Reynolds < > j...@kyneticwifi.com> > >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> > >> >> >> Some may laugh, but that's, sadly, quite plausible. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> That said, at least a few years ago one could making a killing > >> >> >> replacing light bulbs at AT&T shelters. $800/bulb. > >> >> >> > >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke < > eric.kuh...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> > somebody in a cell site shelter tripped over an orange extension > >> >> >> > cord > >> >> >> > and $5 > >> >> >> > power strip probably... > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 2:19 PM, Gino Villarini > >> >> >> > <ginovi...@gmail.com> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> yeap, we are being affected, outage is related to Mobile > Network. > >> >> >> >> No > >> >> >> >> official word yet, there was a earlier rumor about a circuit > >> >> >> >> breaker > >> >> >> >> being > >> >> >> >> accidentally turned off. But my inside sources debunked it. I > >> >> >> >> believe > >> >> >> >> its > >> >> >> >> a Issue with EPC > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 4:41 PM, Josh Reynolds > >> >> >> >> <j...@kyneticwifi.com> > >> >> >> >> wrote: > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Bit AT&T PR outage. Over 1 million cusomers down for 8+ hours > >> >> >> >>> now. > >> >> >> >>> > >> >> >> >>> Were you effected? Any idea what caused it? > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > >
