Maybe this is the answer to my question “how can I get customers to pay extra 
for IPv6?”

From: Glen Waldrop 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 7:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

All of this is true.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 3:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

It’s so annoying when a big company like Microsoft makes up nonstandard terms 
like open/moderate/strict NAT, without really explaining what those terms mean. 
 And imply the ISP is at fault for blocking ports which need to be “opened”, 
instead of explaining that port forwarding, default DMZ host, or UPnP needs to 
be configured on the customer’s NAT router, and the game console will need a 
static IP on the LAN or a DHCP reservation in the router.

Also, is it true this is only an issue for peer-to-peer games, not cloud hosted 
games?


From: Justin Wilson 
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2016 2:41 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Strict NAT message on Xbox One?

My MUM presentation has some info on Xbox and Nat.  I will be doing an expanded 
post in the near future to supplement the presentation. 

http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=1178


Justin Wilson
j...@mtin.net

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  On May 8, 2016, at 11:06 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I assume a cpe is the same config as an air router. Our dump file sets an ip 
outside the dhcp pool in the air router as dmz. We just tell them the ip to set 
on their device, no problems thus far

  On May 7, 2016 9:22 AM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Can you out them in the DMZ behind that radio? 


    On May 7, 2016 1:30 AM, "Jon Auer" <j...@tapodi.net> wrote:

      For game consoles you basically enable UPnP or deal with a bunch of port 
forwarding.  
      Xbox One is fairly sane. WiiU literally wants all of UDP forwarded.

      On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:19 PM, Michael Gawlowski 
<m...@triadwireless.net> wrote:

        Anyone had this issue? The customer is behind a ubiquiti running NAT 
with the ubiquiti using a public IP behind one of our Mikrotik's. The Mikrotik 
does not have any ports blocked, either. Any ideas?

        Thank you,
        Michael Gawlowski
        Triad Wireless, LLC

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