It was not there in 6.19.

From: Josh Luthman 
Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2016 12:50 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS

I want to say earlier than that but I don't have anything older either.


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On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 1:49 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> wrote:

  I think that was added in 6.25 or so? The oldest I have on the network is 
6.27 and it's there. 



  On 5/12/2016 9:29 AM, Jerry Head wrote:

    The Torch on my CCR does not look like that, no DSCP option at all.....

    On 5/11/2016 11:54 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

      Make sure you are using the right settings in Torch.... 

      and you can always sort on the DSCP Marks.

      You should see something like in the attached picture...


      Faisal Imtiaz
      Snappy Internet & Telecom
      7266 SW 48 Street
      Miami, FL 33155
      Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

      Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]


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        From: "Andreas Wiatowski" mailto:[email protected]
        To: [email protected]
        Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 11:46:07 AM
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

        I’ve been trying to see DSCP marks in torch on our CRR’s… can’t seem to 
see anything in the interface.  I’m going to try a packet capture and view in 
Wireshark.



        Thanks for your input.



        Cheers,

        ______________________________

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        Silo Wireless Inc.

        Email  [email protected]

        19 Sage Court

        Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

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        From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
        Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:48 AM
        To: [email protected]
        Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS



        Andreas,



        Yes,  here is the logic....



        PBX should mark packets correctly  (RTP packets as well as SIP 
signaling... for packets going towards to the CPE).

        Phone CPE should mark packets correctly... (for packets going to the 
PBX)



        Routers typically are not constrained on their pipes, so traffic flows 
well.

        Unless you are using some sort of queues to restrict traffic flow.... 
then you have to make sure that dscp/qos marked traffic flows with priority.



        Most radio's will respect DSCP/QoS  marks and allocate priority 
accordingly... (check with your radio mfg / firmware version, config etc).



        BTW you can easily see the DSCP/QoS marks if you use TORCH on the MT, 
it is real time.... :)



        Regards





        Faisal Imtiaz
        Snappy Internet & Telecom
        7266 SW 48 Street
        Miami, FL 33155
        Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

        Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]




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          From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <[email protected]>
          To: [email protected]
          Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 10:17:03 AM
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

          Faisal,



          So the packets should still contain DSCP tags regardless of layer2 or 
layer3?



          Sounds like I will need to do some packet captures.



          Cheers,

          ______________________________

          Andreas Wiatowski | CEO

          Silo Wireless Inc.

          Email  [email protected]

          19 Sage Court

          Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA)

          Tel +1.519.449.5656  Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free 
+1.866.727.4138



          From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
          Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 9:35 AM
          To: [email protected]
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers and VOIP QOS



          Hi Andreas,



          in our network, we handle this as follows:-



          1) we make sure that the PBX is marking the packets with the DSCP 
tags correctly.

          2) we make sure that the phone/iad are marking the packets with DSCP 
tags correctly.

          3) we make sure that the Radios (AP & CPE) are using firmware that 
respects the DSCP Tags, and provides them with appropriate priority

          4) we don't do anything on our routers (in our network). if we have 
to, the only thing we do on the customer router (Dmarc) is to  make sure that 
the dscp tags are correct.



          And this works very well for us.





          Regards. 



          Faisal Imtiaz
          Snappy Internet & Telecom
          7266 SW 48 Street
          Miami, FL 33155
          Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

          Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: [email protected]




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            From: "Andreas Wiatowski" <[email protected]>
            To: [email protected]
            Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2016 1:39:36 AM
            Subject: [AFMUG] Mikrotik Routers  and VOIP QOS

            Hello All!



            We have about 90 sites primarily with CCR’s of various flavours.  
We have yet to implement any type of QOS for our VOIP..but we are starting to 
feel some quality pain with a couple of our “ON NET” PBX/SIP products.



            I have been reading about using mangle rules to mark connections 
and then packets, then setting up a QUEUE tree in MT where the packet marks are 
prioritized.  We are fully routed with no layer 2 / bridging.  I’m wondering if 
I can accomplish the same thing by just identifying the IP of my Multi-Tenant 
PBX box and any traffic moving to and from…and prioritizing it as 1.  Secondly, 
do I have to do this on every single router on my network? 



            OR Is it a better practice to IDENTIFY DCSP or TOS, mark and 
prioritize that instead.  Just looking for the best way to unify this across my 
network. 



            Anyone have examples?  Many of the examples I have seen really 
relate to SOHO type situations…. We are talking much larger here.  Most of my 
transport is 200Mbps to 10Gbps between sites.



            Cheers,






            Andreas Wiatowski, CEO

            Silo Wireless Inc.

            519-449-5656 x-600













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