That requires something specific? On May 14, 2016 7:33 AM, "Erich Kaiser" <er...@northcentraltower.com> wrote:
> We have started requiring our upstreams to filter by ASN vs Netblock. We > are moving away from upstreams that do not utilize IRR Entries and require > intervention every time we want to make a change, but it is continuous for > us, so for most guys the one time setup is not a big deal, plus the > upstream has to be trusting enough that we will have the correct filtering > on our end. > > Steve, I would add Blackhole BGP community or session to your list. > > Erich Kaiser > The Fusion Network > er...@gotfusion.net > Office: 630-621-4804 > Cell: 630-777-9291 > > On Sat, May 14, 2016 at 6:34 AM, Paul Stewart <p...@paulstewart.org> > wrote: > >> Or, quite a number of carriers (especially in APAC, some carriers in >> Canada, a few in the US, and definitely a large number in Europe) will say >> “do you have an IRR entry at RADB?” and if you say yes then they will use >> the route object information but if you say no then they will tell you to >> open a ticket with their NOC each time you have a prefix to add/remove …. >> >> >> >> I’m actually surprised by the number of transit providers that don’t’ >> support automation via IRR >> >> >> >> Paul >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz >> *Sent:* May 13, 2016 9:25 PM >> *To:* af@afmug.com >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Upstream BGP Questionairre >> >> >> >> Let me clarify this a bit more... >> >> >> >> You are recommending that one creates it's own AS Object in the IRR..(aka >> learns and manages their own RR entries) (it really does not matter which >> IRR it is, at the end of the day they are all sort of synced, it is only a >> question of who is maintaining it, and who can provide help to newbies). .. >> BTW, I agree with this.. however .... >> >> >> >> Cause at the end of the day, someone in the up-stream is very likely to >> create the record for you, if it is needed by them... >> >> This is one of those things that most carriers find... "too much trouble >> to teach vs just do it for that network !" >> >> >> >> :) >> >> >> >> Regards. >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, May 13, 2016 7:15:26 PM >> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Upstream BGP Questionairre >> >> I recommend adding your route or AS objects in ARIN's IRR. Merit RADb is >> not free. Most carriers use RADb, and RADb mirrors ARIN's IRR anyway. >> >> On 5/13/2016 3:49 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote: >> >> See answers in-line below:- >> >> >> >> Faisal Imtiaz >> Snappy Internet & Telecom >> 7266 SW 48 Street >> Miami, FL 33155 >> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 >> >> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> *From: *"That One Guy /sarcasm" <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >> *To: *af@afmug.com >> *Sent: *Friday, May 13, 2016 11:35:10 AM >> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Upstream BGP Questionairre >> >> Im going to expose the breadth of my incompetence here, but there are >> some questions in this document I want to make sure im answering accurately >> >> 1. Are you the owner of the AS Number with RIR- This im assuming is our >> ARIN direct allocation? >> >> They are asking if you have a AS # assigned to you from ... (would be >> ARIN for North America). >> >> 2. Are you registered with an Internet Routing Registry? - Im not sure >> what this is, is this also ARIN or do I need to register something >> elsewhere? >> >> Routing Registry.... it is a way to build authorized prefixes from a >> DataBase... >> >> You can read up about it from here >> https://www.arin.net/resources/routing/ >> >> >> Justin Wilson did a blog about it too... http://www.mtin.net/blog/?p=245 >> >> >> >> and yes ARIN also provides a Routing Registry Service ... (along with a >> few others) >> >> >> >> 3. Which type of routes do you want to receive? - Full routes is what we >> want, but are there caveats in this answer I need to be prepared for? >> >> >> >> No Caveats, as long as your equipment is able to take full routes, then >> do so. >> >> >> >> 4. Do you have downstream ASNs? - I assume this would be customers with >> their own allocations? We currently do not, but do not want to close the >> door on that in the future. Is this something easily updated in the future? >> >> Answer this question in the Present.. (you don't have any so say no)... >> no future door is closed due to this... this is just info asked / collected >> for the upstream to be able to build their ACL filters.... (This is also a >> flag for them to collect your BGP LOA's as well as your Customers to you..) >> >> >> >> This becomes a mute topic, if you are versed in using the Routing >> Registry and maintaining your own Route Objects etc. >> >> >> >> 5. List all prefixes to be announced so that we can confirm the BGP ACL >> prior to activation: We only have a /22, but we do want the option down the >> road to pull /24 from one provider if need be. Would we list the /24s >> independently or the /22 as the aggregate? >> >> >> >> You want to ask them for the following:- >> >> >> >> xx.xx.xx.xx/22 please use the 'le 24' option with the filter. >> >> >> >> Note: this will have them build a filter that can accept larger prefixes >> between 24 - 22, so it is not a 'specific' filter... >> >> >> >> >> >> 6. MD5 Password: On this is it standard practice to use the same password >> with all providers or different ones? >> >> >> >> Your choice... either way.... no big deal, as long as you keep track of >> them. >> >> >> >> -- >> >> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >> >> >> >> >> >> >
