I can't fully disagree with the your email Josh - for customers.   
That said, in a large, and growing office environment, it's hard to match the 
featureset of exchange if you're willing to pay for it every couple revisions...
Then if you dump office365 into the mix for ultra small headcount orgs who 
don't want/cant justify servers and maintenance, it's pretty slick.   

Disclaimer: I've never knowingly used zimbra, so it may be just as good if 
you've got someone who can make it dance.   


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From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Reynolds 
<j...@kyneticwifi.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:31 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru

[1] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the experience of a large email provider
[2] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the hardware redundancy of a
large email provider
[3] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the software redundancy of a
large email provider
[4] As a small to medium ISP, you likely have other, more important
duties besides worrying about managing your own email server
[5] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the dedicated team a large
email provider has to help get off / stay off blacklists
[6] As a small to medium ISP, internal per user mail cost via cloud
provider is a very efficient use of opex given the above
[7] As a small to medium ISP, you can only "do better" than the above
in cost alone.
[8] As a small to medium ISP, If cost is the only importance when it
comes to mail, use Zimbra, Sendmail, etc.
[9] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to
customers, consider Sendmail. Sendmail has been used by a metric
asston of ISPs - potentially serving several billion customers over
the years. It is very well tested and supported.
[10] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail
to customers and don't like Sendmail, consider Zimbra. Zimbra will
offer you support and features very similar to Exchange with a much
lower cost. Your end user devices won't know there is a difference.

Somebody is going to come up with certain experiences they've had
running Exchange, or Qmail, or $whatever. That's fine, you experience
and opinions are no less relevant.

Now I'm going to bow out, and maybe watch the carnage unfold after I
finish making this new ansible/Juniper playbook :)

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net> wrote:
> 1.. exchange is easy.
> 2. why works great!
>
>
>
>
> www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:52 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
>
> [1] Good luck with getting it fixed
>
> [2] Get the fuck off exchange
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> thanks!
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
>> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Keith Willis with Progent
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We have a issue with our Exchange server.  The database does not mount.
>>>> Any recommendations for a Exchange Professional?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>
>>

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