I'm not touching Zimbra if it requires me (which it probably doesn't) to
spin up 8 hosts like you do.  :)

I can happily run 10k+ Exchange 2010 mailboxes on two servers.  If I was
spinning up something that had to actually host mailboxes on a small-ish
scale (and I didn't have a budget), I would do what Eric does and use
Postfix/Dovecot/$the_newest_elite_webmail_solution. If I had a small budget
and didn't already have an existing mailbox infrastructure, I'm more than
likely going to outsource it (O365, Google or whatever).

Josh

On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Zimbra is great. I don't know why everyone doesn't use it.
>
>
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> *From: *"Tyler Treat" <tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:37:48 PM
>
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
>
> I can't fully disagree with the your email Josh - for customers.
> That said, in a large, and growing office environment, it's hard to match
> the featureset of exchange if you're willing to pay for it every couple
> revisions...
> Then if you dump office365 into the mix for ultra small headcount orgs who
> don't want/cant justify servers and maintenance, it's pretty slick.
>
> Disclaimer: I've never knowingly used zimbra, so it may be just as good if
> you've got someone who can make it dance.
>
>
> ________________________________________
> From: Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Reynolds <
> j...@kyneticwifi.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 1:31 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
>
> [1] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the experience of a large email
> provider
> [2] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the hardware redundancy of a
> large email provider
> [3] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the software redundancy of a
> large email provider
> [4] As a small to medium ISP, you likely have other, more important
> duties besides worrying about managing your own email server
> [5] As a small to medium ISP, you lack the dedicated team a large
> email provider has to help get off / stay off blacklists
> [6] As a small to medium ISP, internal per user mail cost via cloud
> provider is a very efficient use of opex given the above
> [7] As a small to medium ISP, you can only "do better" than the above
> in cost alone.
> [8] As a small to medium ISP, If cost is the only importance when it
> comes to mail, use Zimbra, Sendmail, etc.
> [9] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail to
> customers, consider Sendmail. Sendmail has been used by a metric
> asston of ISPs - potentially serving several billion customers over
> the years. It is very well tested and supported.
> [10] As a small to medium ISP, if you INSIST on offering hosted mail
> to customers and don't like Sendmail, consider Zimbra. Zimbra will
> offer you support and features very similar to Exchange with a much
> lower cost. Your end user devices won't know there is a difference.
>
> Somebody is going to come up with certain experiences they've had
> running Exchange, or Qmail, or $whatever. That's fine, you experience
> and opinions are no less relevant.
>
> Now I'm going to bow out, and maybe watch the carnage unfold after I
> finish making this new ansible/Juniper playbook :)
>
> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:13 PM, Dennis Burgess <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> wrote:
> > 1.. exchange is easy.
> > 2. why works great!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > www.linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 x103 – dmburg...@linktechs.net
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 1, 2016 12:52 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Urgently need Exchange DB Guru
> >
> > [1] Good luck with getting it fixed
> >
> > [2] Get the fuck off exchange
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:38 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> thanks!
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 1:35 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm
> >> <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Keith Willis with Progent
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 1, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> We have a issue with our Exchange server.  The database does not
> mount.
> >>>> Any recommendations for a Exchange Professional?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> >>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> >>
> >>
>
>

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