4 chains over 360 degrees vs. 14 chains over 90 degrees. The Quamni doesn't really count when looking at a non-micro-POP model. It wouldn't be narrow enough to qualify for any PtP rules. To me it's preferential in situations where cost or aesthetics are important, but not for performance (RF or IP).
It's technically similar, but that's comparing a Cruze and a Vette in that they're both cars. That said, it'll be a closer comparison when the 8x8 A5c is available and on a 90* sector. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Conaway" <r...@triadwireless.net> To: af@afmug.com Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 10:29:55 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m Please explain. 4 sectors, lights up the 1 or 2 sectors the CPE connects to. Or are you referring to the sector being 90 degrees instead of something like 10 degrees? Just for the record, 2.4GHz has much more benefit with beam steering antennas than 5GHz. 2.4GHz can bring the power output up and take advantage of PTP rules unless that has changed. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 6:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m Not even close. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rory Conaway" < r...@triadwireless.net > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 9:00:40 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m I think it’s called an Mimosa A5. Rory From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2016 6:13 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m I would love to see an omni beemsteering antenna in 5ghz. On Thu, Jun 23, 2016 at 12:42 AM, Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: As wide as 360 degrees? From: Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:04 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m That is why they said 'about 3-4 times the throughput'. The better the spacial diversity the better the throughput - they can get 7x if everything is aligned correctly. You also need to remember that these aren't fixed beams - they're dynamically pointable, and my understanding is that it can be re-pointed in each timeslot, so as long as all of your customers aren't in a very narrow slice, and are relatively spread out, you should gain something. The other thought is that this is going to encourage people to move to as wide of sector as possible to improve the beamsteering performance. On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Kurt Fankhauser < lists.wavel...@gmail.com > wrote: So if i have a tower like the one below with customers spaced out accordingly, alot of the customers are going to fall wthin 1 or 2 of the 6 degree "strip patches" on the antenna and thus i wont see as much throughput increase per AP? :( On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:28 PM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: You can't do that kind of spatial diversity in a PTP link. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/22/2016 10:11 AM, Kurt Fankhauser wrote: Will there be a PTP version of Medusa that can triple the throughput of existing PTP650 links on the same channel width? I am wondering why the same massive-mimo can't be applied to PTP so a 450mbps PTP650 link running on 45mhz channel can then achieve 1.35Gbps on the same 45mhz channel? On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Josh Luthman < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > wrote: Are these uplink and downlink? The epmp 2000 is only uplink. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 22, 2016 12:54 PM, "Peter Kranz" < pkr...@unwiredltd.com > wrote: <blockquote> With the ETI beamformer antenna.. you get ~20db gain since you have the electrical capture of all the active antennas going on.. in theory creating a high gain very narrow spot beam of 15 degrees or so.. 14 implies something else.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207-0000 pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 9:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m They beam-form the power coming in. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/22/2016 9:40 AM, Craig Schmaderer wrote: <blockquote> Over poe though? That’s pushing a lot of watts over it, I didn’t hear them say it had a separate power port? From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Josh Reynolds Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:40 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m 48v to 56 or 59v I believe On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Craig Schmaderer < cr...@skywaveconnect.com > wrote: <blockquote> Spec sheet says 70watts, how are we going to power this thing, they never said the power options did they? From: Af [mailto: af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Daniel White Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:37 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m Yes there is a GigE roadmap that includes 40MHz channels. Daniel White Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales ConVergence Technologies Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 dwh...@converge-tech.com From: Af [ mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 10:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m Any plans to offer 40mhz channel on this thing for 800-1000mbps throughput? On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:22 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: <blockquote> That does a lot of nothing now. ----- Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP From: "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2016 11:21:33 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 450m Take whatever you like from here: <blockquote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO9JfpcaZRA bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/22/2016 9:17 AM, Matt wrote: <blockquote> <blockquote> There is a webinar going on now as we speak introducing the product. </blockquote> Is there anywhere to download slides or video from the webinar? </blockquote> </blockquote> Virus-free. www.avast.com </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> </blockquote> -- Forrest Christian CEO, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc. Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602 forre...@imach.com | http://www.packetflux.com
