Now that you mention it I'm not sure what the equivalent would be in metric.

You could express it in Watts, but I'm not sure that counts as metric.


------ Original Message ------
From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 7/22/2016 2:31:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

And yet I’ll bet the power is specified in horsepower. Maybe that’s a metric horse?


From:Adam Moffett
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 1:03 PM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

When comparing engines, 1 liter is 60 cubic inch....or near enough.
The 1.6L engine in my Hyundai is pretty standard for compact cars these days, but that's less than 100 cubic inch. Did they ever make an engine for a car that small when they measured them in CI?

When I think of it in terms of CI, I would seem like I'm driving 4 weed trimmers down the street....but it actually feels pretty spunky.

------ Original Message ------
From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 7/22/2016 1:38:07 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

For me, 1 liter = 1 quart when I don't want to think too hard.



bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 7/22/2016 10:24 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
454 Chevy is almost 2 gallons displacement....

Liter I have not got memorized. I think a 12 oz can of soda is about 350 something. Just looked it up, 354, so like a Chevy 454 but 354 instead. I wonder if that will stick...

2.2 lbs per kg  that one is easy.


From:ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:20 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

2.54
3.28
.621

I use these factors almost every day. I would hope most folks have them memorized.
231 is a bit more obscure (cubic inches per gallon)

I still have a hard time doing the F to C. I know the ratio is 9/5 - 5/9 but the add/subtract 32 bit before/after the conversion is something I have to futz with. Normally I use a known conversion like 20-68 degrees and then play with the formula until it yields the correct answer and then I know it for a few minutes until the next time.

From:Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:10 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

I just bought a set of 225/55R18 tires. Talk about mixed units. 225mm, 55%, 18in.

From:Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 11:44 AM
To:af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

Exactly. Problem solved if we just use 'merican units. Damn metric destroyed our equipment.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:40 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
I guess California isn't part of USA ese Holmes? Meters to feet mistake crashed a probe on Mars.... Math is supposed to be international.... Oh well ...


On Jul 22, 2016 10:31 AM, "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
It's cool, I figure you're from one of those countries that haven't been to the moon.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> wrote:
LOL!  Stefan does!  ;-)

Thanks for the 'merica units help.

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:19 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
45 and 125 mph. No one knows what you're talking about with the meaters.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 12:12 PM, Harold Bledsoe <hbledso...@gmail.com> wrote:
It's actually fairly forgiving. Our 1.1km link has not lost connection from wind at all and it has been up above 70kph. The standard and LR brackets are both tested to 200kph for your reference.

Thanks,
-Hal

On Fri, Jul 22, 2016 at 7:53 AM Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:
We are planning to use them on 10-12m steel poles. The poles are very solid built and with a concrete foundation

but they might sway a bit due to the length with heavy wind. Is this critical? Is failover with 5Ghz fast enough to

overcome short moves?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 21:34


An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq




So having dealt with multiple links, I can tell you that if you are missing some db's it has to do with alignment.



We are seeing -55/-59 on our 450m link

and on our 250m link we are seeing -43/-47 signal (and had to reduce power on 60ghz on one side.. .i.e. we are not aligned perfectly )



So I can say affirmatively there is no 'missing power' it has to do with alignment...



:)



Faisal Imtiaz


Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




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From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
To: af@afmug.com


Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 3:14:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

Do you get the calculated rx-power?





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 20:33


An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq




It would be appropriate to point out that there are two versions or Metrolinq 60ghz Radios one smaller lower power and other larger higher power.



We have been using the larger units (Circular cones) for links 250m to 450m successfully.. aiming them with the shipping brackets is a whole another challenge.. I am very happy to the the LR brackets available and those should go long ways is aligning longer links. .



Faisal Imtiaz


Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net




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From: "Carl Peterson" <cpeter...@portnetworks.com>
To: af@afmug.com


Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:57:41 AM

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

We haven't had any issues with 5GHz but the 60GHz side underwhelms. We tried a 900' link and couldn't get the 60Ghz side to work. We were able to move one end and get it down to 600' and have a 60GHz link at -55 but that is 10-15db below where it should be. It's working, but at this point I wouldn't use it for anything over 500' or so.



On Thu, Jul 21, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s...@genias.net> wrote:



We’ve only dfs bands in 5 GHz. Metrolinq supports only the lower band with lower allowed power (1W EiRP).

I’ve installed the newest FW before doing anything so I might be lucky to avoid the biggest problems (hopefully).





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Faisal Imtiaz
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 16:30
An:af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Metrolinq



Interesting.. most folks have the opposite issue.



FWIW, there is no dfs support on 5ghz (not sure about non-american rules).

If you are bench testing... you need to turn down the power on 5ghz .. way down....



Regards



Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net



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From: "Stefan Englhardt" <s...@genias.net>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 8:13:34 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] Metrolinq

Got my first links. 60GHz work fine in lab. The 5GHz Part does strange things. Does not initialze or does not connect.

Syslog gives dfs or cant initialize messages.

60GHz is up immediately und runs stable in lab. Latency is low. Feels like a 1G cable connection. Powered by Netonix 24V.

Takes only 6 Watts. Good build quality. Webinterface is easy and fast.



So a cheap option for fast short hops where you dont want to dig.
















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