I've been considering changing to DC-1042 for customer installs (we've been
using it for all our tower stuff for awhile), but I really haven't seen any
problems with the DC-1021, and our installers seem to like it, so I'm not
sure if it's a good idea to switch...

On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

> Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042?  It’s similar to Belden, but the foil
> isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it back.  It has the
> dry gel impregnated tape instead of the clear mylar in the Belden.  Only
> thing I miss maybe is the stranded drain wire.  I forget which Belden
> version has that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was
> the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire.
>
> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice.
>
> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
>
> thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming across
> it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking
>
> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use it
>> because they hate the goo.  They do have to admit however when they go to a
>> 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well.
>>
>>
>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
>>
>> if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden on the
>> residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears and
>> the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable :-)
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Love you too Steve :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would rather use
>>> one of those cables.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Daniel White
>>>
>>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales
>>>
>>> ConVergence Technologies
>>>
>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590
>>>
>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy
>>> /sarcasm
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> belden something or other was the greatest
>>>
>>> but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit
>>> with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Shireen DC-1021
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote:
>>>
>>> I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for
>>> residential installs.  Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably
>>> pays out of a box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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