i have totally switched to using the APEX cable exclusively for everything for at least the last 2 years. I specifically like it because of its smaller size compared to some other cables, Not having any problems with it getting water inside here, I also don't think it was any stiffer in the winter compared to anything else.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 8:43 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > I could understand if we were all using CCA with non-uv rated cable with > no shield and installing the shit underwater, but given some of the price > differences for minimal gain, most of the cabling issues in my experience > have been related to inadequacies in installer training and not the cable > itself - or using staples... those people are the fucking devil. > > On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Joe Novak <jno...@lrcomm.com> wrote: > >> Cable is a serious deal.. I mean your network runs on it! >> >> On Aug 5, 2016 6:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: >> >>> I've never seen a level of religion in IT equivalent to the cable >>> religion on this list. It's kinda nuts. >>> >>> On Aug 5, 2016 6:13 PM, "George Skorup" <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote: >>> >>>> That's the 7919a and equivalent. Good cable, just a PITA. And >>>> expensive. The foil tears easily. I like everything about the Shireen 1042 >>>> for tower cable. Larger tinned stranded drain wire would be nice, but meh. >>>> The foil is more than heavy enough and isn't brittle like the >>>> Belden/Best-Tronics stuff. >>>> >>>> On 8/5/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>>> >>>> Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042? It’s similar to Belden, but the >>>> foil isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it back. It has >>>> the dry gel impregnated tape instead of the clear mylar in the Belden. >>>> Only thing I miss maybe is the stranded drain wire. I forget which Belden >>>> version has that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was >>>> the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. >>>> >>>> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. >>>> >>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>>> >>>> thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming >>>> across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use it >>>>> because they hate the goo. They do have to admit however when they go to >>>>> a >>>>> 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> >>>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM >>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>>>> >>>>> if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden on >>>>> the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears >>>>> and the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <afmu...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Love you too Steve :-) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would rather >>>>>> use one of those cables. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Daniel White >>>>>> >>>>>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >>>>>> >>>>>> ConVergence Technologies >>>>>> >>>>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>>>> >>>>>> dwh...@converge-tech.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>>>>> /sarcasm >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM >>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> belden something or other was the greatest >>>>>> >>>>>> but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit >>>>>> with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Shireen DC-1021 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for >>>>>> residential installs. 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