I could understand if we were all using CCA with non-uv rated cable with no shield and installing the shit underwater, but given some of the price differences for minimal gain, most of the cabling issues in my experience have been related to inadequacies in installer training and not the cable itself - or using staples... those people are the fucking devil.
On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 7:00 PM, Joe Novak <[email protected]> wrote: > Cable is a serious deal.. I mean your network runs on it! > > On Aug 5, 2016 6:28 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I've never seen a level of religion in IT equivalent to the cable >> religion on this list. It's kinda nuts. >> >> On Aug 5, 2016 6:13 PM, "George Skorup" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> That's the 7919a and equivalent. Good cable, just a PITA. And expensive. >>> The foil tears easily. I like everything about the Shireen 1042 for tower >>> cable. Larger tinned stranded drain wire would be nice, but meh. The foil >>> is more than heavy enough and isn't brittle like the Belden/Best-Tronics >>> stuff. >>> >>> On 8/5/2016 2:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: >>> >>> Have you tried the Shireen DC-1042? It’s similar to Belden, but the >>> foil isn’t bonded to the jacket so you can actually fold it back. It has >>> the dry gel impregnated tape instead of the clear mylar in the Belden. >>> Only thing I miss maybe is the stranded drain wire. I forget which Belden >>> version has that, we used to buy both 1300a and 7919a, I think maybe it was >>> the 7919a that had the stranded drain wire. >>> >>> The Shireen pullboxes work pretty nice. >>> >>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:21 PM >>> *To:* [email protected] >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>> >>> thats how the belden is, soft sheath is more durable. I love coming >>> across it. the apex is prone to pinholing and kinking >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:17 PM, Ken Hohhof <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I don’t buy Commscope 5NF4 anymore because the installers won’t use it >>>> because they hate the goo. They do have to admit however when they go to a >>>> 10 year old install that it stands up to the weather really, really well. >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm <[email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 05, 2016 2:10 PM >>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>>> >>>> if i was in charge, we never would have gone away from the belden on >>>> the residential outdoor. apex 9 in the winter is so stiff, the foil tears >>>> and the drain is like a bread tie. but at least its not green toughcable >>>> :-) >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 11:06 AM, Daniel White <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Love you too Steve :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> We do sell Primus, Belden, and Shireen as well if you would rather use >>>>> one of those cables. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Daniel White >>>>> >>>>> Managing Director – Hardware Distribution Sales >>>>> >>>>> ConVergence Technologies >>>>> >>>>> Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 <%2B1%20%28303%29%20746-3590> >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *That One Guy >>>>> /sarcasm >>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:54 PM >>>>> *To:* [email protected] >>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] residential cable preferences >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> belden something or other was the greatest >>>>> >>>>> but these mopes here where i work like apex 9, I think its utter shit >>>>> with its ultrathin foil and brittle copper >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:44 PM, George Skorup <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Shireen DC-1021 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8/4/2016 11:08 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I guess it's time for the regular survey on cable preferences for >>>>> residential installs. Of course looking for shielded Cat5 and preferably >>>>> pays out of a box. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon> >>>>> Virus-free. >>>>> www.avast.com >>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >>> >>>
