Look into USDA matching grants for broadband. Can't remember if it's 20 or
30% up front, but they provide the rest.

Avoid RUS, too many strings.

On Aug 11, 2016 12:28 PM, "Sterling Jacobson" <sterl...@avative.net> wrote:

> Ah, ok.
>
> Fiber is way more capital intensive than the WISP I had, and requires
> massive funding.
>
> So my traditional sources and avenues for borrowing don't even come close
> to matching up with the demand and cost of construction.
>
> Too bad banks don't see fiber/conduit build as collateral.
>
> That is why I am investigating special assessment.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 11:17 AM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Special Assessment
>
> Just saying that government money is never what it's cracked up to be.
> I've never taken a single dime (loan, grant, tax, assessment, etc) and
> probably never will, with any of my companies. It's just not worth all the
> extra work and headaches. If you have a sound business plan and operation,
> just borrow the money and get it done.
>
> There are all kinds of ways to be creative when it comes to funding.
> Leasing equipment, 60 day term credit cards, lines of credit (secured with
> assets of the business), or even home equity loans (4.25% right now, with
> interest only payments), etc.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 8/11/2016 10:52 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
> > Definitely.
> >
> > Travis, are you just generally saying the money comes with strings
> attached, or do you have actual specific experience with Special Assessment
> in this manner?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:51 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Special Assessment
> >
> > Yeah, good people find themselves in legal trouble all the time when
> getting involved with guvmnt money.  Less than zero tolerance for even the
> appearance of evil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Travis Johnson
> > Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2016 10:48 AM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Special Assessment
> >
> > You better build in an additional 100% for overhead costs... I would
> imagine you would have to start doing audited tax returns and financials
> every year. You will also have to have someone tracking every single
> expense and what it is attached to, etc.
> >
> > Then you will have all the overhead and administrative costs for
> managing the paperwork and government related money.
> >
> > Travis
> >
> > On 8/11/2016 10:21 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote:
> >> Has anyone here ever done a special assessment funded project?
> >>
> >> I have a couple of examples in Utah/Idaho, but am looking for
> >> specific examples and advice from my provider friends here.
> >>
> >> I'm not sure if it's called something else in other states so this is
> >> what I have been told:
> >>
> >> You talk to a land developer, get them to partner up with your
> >> company and the city.
> >> They allow a tax or assessment item to be attached to the developed
> >> lot/unit for around 20 years.
> >> Sometime like $150 a year, so $3000 total over the period.
> >> The city council agrees and creates a bond type item for that and
> >> your company gets a check for the total amount times number of
> properties.
> >> Then you work with the developer to install all of the necessary
> >> stuff for internet, which is fiber in my case.
> >>
> >> And the new property owner has your service available from the get
> >> go, maybe with free install, and a $150 a year discount on the
> >> service for
> >> 20 years.
> >>
> >> Anyone done anything like this?
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

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